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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:28 pm

The Cowboys so far beat Giants twice in regular season and have their number, Do you think Giants can win next week in Dallas? The Dallas Cowboys score 28.4 per game. Can Eli and Giants play toe and toe with Cowboys Offense? I'm worried about Chris Palmer as their quarterbacks coach for Giants may give secrets out to his former team Cowboys. Does Chris Palmer have inside knowledge on Dallas Cowboys since He was a coach for them last year? Last time , The Giants play Cowboys, TO and Patrick Crayton step-up against Giants Defense

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:41 pm

The Cowboys so far beat Giants twice in regular season and have their number, Do you think Giants can win next week in Dallas? The Dallas Cowboys score 28.4 per game. Can Eli and Giants play toe and toe with Cowboys Offense? I'm worried about Chris Palmer as their quarterbacks coach for Giants may give secrets out to his former team Cowboys. Does Chris Palmer have inside knowledge on Dallas Cowboys since He was a coach for them last year? Last time , The Giants play Cowboys, TO and Patrick Crayton step-up against Giants Defense

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:33 pm

QUOTE
"All credit to them. John Henry has done a great job as owner, (Theo) Epstein has done a great job as GM, but we intend to make things right again -- the way they have historically been. Obviously, the Red Sox are going to continue to be a major player, which they weren't in the past. But we intend to be the champs again, and they can be runner's up."


Wow. He totally sounds like he should be posting on nyyfans.com or the yes boards. Totally sounds like a fan and not the boss of a major baseball organization.

No, I’m sorry but that is too much arrogance even for a New Yorker. “Historically right” is not what an executive says to the media, if he is trying to jack up the people that are under him or the players then yea but not to the media. He is just giving other teams [mainly the Red Sox] bulletin board material. It’s not necessary.


Then you should be happy, not bent out of shape. If this is indeed bulletin board material as you claim, than that's only going to put an even bigger bullseye on the Yankees.

I don't see it that way as he's telling the truth.

I'm sure we can go back in the archives and find "arrogant" quotes by owners or general managers of historic franchises. Like the Cowboys, Lakers, Celtics... heck maybe even a Red Sox one in there. Who knows!

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:35 pm

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On the Red Sox winning a second championship in four years:


Rembrat posted on Sosh

"All credit to them. John Henry has done a great job as owner, (Theo) Epstein has done a great job as GM, but we intend to make things right again -- the way they have historically been. Obviously, the Red Sox are going to continue to be a major player, which they weren't in the past. But we intend to be the champs again, and they can be runner's up."
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On whether he likes being on the back pages of the tabloids:

"No. No. Nooooo. I'm not looking to be a celebrity. That's not what I'm not looking for."


Could have fooled me.

Attention whore

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:37 pm

Rembrat posted on Sosh

"All credit to them. John Henry has done a great job as owner, (Theo) Epstein has done a great job as GM, but we intend to make things right again -- the way they have historically been. Obviously, the Red Sox are going to continue to be a major player, which they weren't in the past. But we intend to be the champs again, and they can be runner's up."
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On whether he likes being on the back pages of the tabloids:

"No. No. Nooooo. I'm not looking to be a celebrity. That's not what I'm not looking for."


Could have fooled me.

Attention whore

Talking about attention whore ,It's The mother fucker Lucchino and He's not even owner of Boston Redsox.

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:38 pm

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:50 pm

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And i'm sure they're going on, on how Steinbrenner is a cock fag, or something like that. Honestly, who gives a shit?

I sure don't.

He's an attention whore... yes. But he's OUR attention whore. Just like they have Schilling. And they'll run to get his back any time his whoreness is brought up. It's fans being fans.

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:54 pm

From a Chris Kline chat on Baseball America:

Q: Charles from Port Jefferson asks:
What sort of Major Leaguer does Melky Cabrera project to be? I’ve heard solid glove with a Vidro type bat.

A: Chris Kline: That’s a pretty accurate comp–you must have read our Prospect Handbook.

I would DEFINITELY take that in my centerfielder.

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:59 pm

January 16, 2007

http://yankeefan.blogspot.com/2007/01/6.html

#6
by Fabian

Jeff Marquez, RHP, 22
Previously Ranked: 6th prior to 2006, 14th prior to 2005
What Others Say: Pinstripes Plus 9th, Baseball America N/A, John Sickels 17th (C+)

Physical Ability: Jeff Marquez is a 6’2’’ right-hander who weighs in around 190 pounds. Marquez doesn’t have the natural downward plane of some of the taller guys in the system, but nonetheless generates tremendous sink on his 2-seam fastball. It is a pitch that typically registers in the low 90s and is complimented by a 4-seam fastball that Marquez can touch the mid 90s with. In addition to the sinking fastball, the other pitch Marquez is well known for is his change-up, which has been a plus pitch for him to this point in his career. Jeff’s primary arsenal is completed with the curveball, which is probably the pitch Jeff is working on the most at this point. Despite still needing some work, it has been a plus pitch for him on occasion.

What Happened in ’06: In 2006, things just didn’t break right for Marquez. Jeff came into the season hoping to pitch well in Tampa and get promoted to Trenton. I thought that was a reasonable enough expectation given his talent and the composition of the minor league squads at the time. Unfortunately, that did not happen. As tends to happen with groundball pitchers from time to time, Marquez was beset with bad luck in April. His BABIP was way beyond where it should have been and resultantly, so was his ERA. Then once the numbers began to make sense, Marquez was placed on the disabled list with a muscle strain. This would keep him out for the better part of 2 months. Upon returning to Tampa, Marquez continued to pitch well, but at that point it was too little too late and he would have to settle for only having a solid year at Tampa. Sent to the HBL to complete the calendar year, it seemed that Marquez would dominate, unfortunately he struggled with his command and the results were poor.

What Lies Ahead: The key for Jeff’s development will be how well he commands his fastball within the strike zone. At the moment, he’s got pretty good control, he can get the ball in the strike zone on a regular basis, but he needs to throw more quality strikes. Once he does that, the natural movement on his pitches, particularly his fastball, will further increase his already excellent groundball rate. The other development to watch with Marquez will be how quickly he picks up the curveball. It has shown flashes, but is still not dependable. If he can get the hang of it, Marquez could potentially be the proud owner of 4 plus pitches. Additionally, while he has not shown any pronounced platoon splits to this point, such a development would allow him to more easily dispatch left-handed batters. Given the logjam of pitching, especially at the upper levels, the Yankees will be able to be patient with Marquez.

Grade: Marquez is probably the prospect where my opinion is the most divergent from the mainstream. Part of this is that he is one of the guys that I just have a good gut feeling about. The other part is that I feel he profiles very well from a tools point of view. In addition, his performance has been better than his more basic numbers would indicate when accounting for the type of pitcher he is. He already strikes out a fair amount of guys, and I think he may strike out more as he develops as a pitcher, he’s got solid overall control/command, and he gets tons of grounders and pop ups. If everything works out, I think Jeff Marquez might just be Brandon Webb (you know, Chien-Ming Wang without the little voice in the back of your head whispering “where are the strikeouts?”) and for that, I’m bullish on his prospect status. B

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:00 pm

Marquez is former first round sandwich pick which Yankees got for losing David Wells signing with San Diego Padres.

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Post  RedMagma on Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:01 pm

Dennis says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

From “Pinstripesplus.com”"

The Yankees drafted Mitch Hilligoss in the 6th round of the 2006 MLB Draft out of Purdue University. A combined .395 hitter in his last two years of college, he has quickly proven to be one of the elite hitters in the entire organization after setting a South Atlantic League record 38-game hit streak and finishing in the top ten in hitting in 2007.

Jon says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

Twincity
By Patrick Teale
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Date: Jan 3, 2008

The Yankees drafted Mitch Hilligoss in the 6th round of the 2006 MLB Draft out of Purdue University. A combined .395 hitter in his last two years of college, he has quickly proven to be one of the elite hitters in the entire organization after setting a South Atlantic League record 38-game hit streak and finishing in the top ten in hitting in 2007.

sane says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

Hilligoss stats:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/Mitch-Hilligoss.shtml

Twincity111 says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

I love Hughes and Marquez,Melky and Mitch Hilligoss are decent. I guess I would do this trade.

Dennis says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:30 pm

I see from the stats that Hilligoss has a very high success rate for steals, a high BA and a decent OBA. Not a bad combination. Looks like he would make a great second baseman, or shortstop if his fielding is up to it. And if there’s one thing the Twins can always do well, it’s evaluate other teams’ minor leaguers. They obviously see something they like in Marquez as well. That’s good enough for me.

Jon says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

Rumors are going around that the twins are waiting for the yankees. The have reportedly told the yankees they would accept the trade.

Twincity111 says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

Jon
What is the name of the website that is comparing Marquez to Webb and Wang?

Jon says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

Twin city
http://yankeefan.blogspot.com/2007/01/6.html

Dennis says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

I’d do that deal too if I were the Twins. I like Melky better than a lot of people on here. He hit .280 with a .360 OBP as a 21 year old in 2006. And he had a 59/56 strikeout to walk ratio, which is superb even for a 30 year old veteran. He had a sophomore slump in 2007 as often happens, but he still hit .273 with a decent SO/Walk ratio. Scouts say he should be a .280-.300 hitter with 15-20 HR and good fielding. I’d be happy with that in centerfield. And he’s not a free agent until 2013!

Dennis says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

From a Chris Kline chat on Baseball America:

Q: Charles from Port Jefferson asks:
What sort of Major Leaguer does Melky Cabrera project to be? I’ve heard solid glove with a Vidro type bat.

A: Chris Kline: That’s a pretty accurate comp–you must have read our Prospect Handbook.

I would DEFINITELY take that in my centerfielder.

Twincity111 says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

I am excited about Hughes every scouting report i have seen about him has said he is an Ace in the making.

sane says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

Sickels rates Marquez as the 14th best Yankee prospect and a C+ grade.
Baseball America rates him as the 7th best Yankee prospect.
The comparison to Brandon Webb by a Yankee blog may be over the top, but I still like the trade.
Barring another trade or FA acquisition, the Twins still will need a leadoff hitter until Casilla wins a job.

Twincity111 says:

January 6th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

I guess Hilligoss is good,because why would the twins scouts Target him unless they think he can be a good player.

Jay says:

January 6th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

Marquez is former first round sandwich pick which Yankees got for losing David Wells signing with San Diego Padres.

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Clemens' interview offers everything but closure

Post  RedMagma on Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:55 am

Clemens' interview offers everything but closure

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Roger Clemens didn't have to throw a two-hit shutout to make himself look good Sunday night. When you're sandwiched between Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf blaming Benazir Bhutto for her own death and Andy Rooney babbling on about presidential-sounding names, the standards aren't exactly sky-high.

Still, sports fans who tuned in to watch Clemens and Mike Wallace on "60 Minutes" had high expectations because we're conditioned to equate Nielsen ratings with gravity and a sense of closure. The larger the audience and more prestigious the forum, the more earthshaking the revelation. That's the way it works these days, right?



When the interview was over and viewers went to bed or turned their attention to "The Amazing Race," they had good reason to feel conflicted -- because there were two Roger Clemenses on display Sunday night.

The first Rocket expressed the requisite outrage and sense of betrayal. Suspend your natural sense of disbelief for a moment and think how you might respond if Brian McNamee were your friend and wrongly accused you of steroid use. Your eyes would flash with anger, and you'd use words like "angry," "upset" and "pissed off," with a "hogwash" thrown in for effect.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but that Roger Clemens -- the hurt and betrayed friend -- seemed to pass the plausibility test.

The other Clemens … well … he had some holes in his arguments that were bigger than the Yankees' luxury tax bill. That guy made you think this prime-time appearance wasn't such a great idea.

Venting your outrage before a national audience can be a risky proposition. When Alex Rodriguez appeared on "60 Minutes" with Katie Couric a few weeks ago, it seemed like the ideal setting to repair his image. Then Couric began asking him about steroid use and the Mitchell report, and A-Rod got that All-Star-third-baseman-caught-in-the-headlights look about him.

The stakes were bigger for Clemens, of course. We're talking about a guy who never has been particularly smooth, glib or prone to sound bites. And the only things he's fighting for are his legacy, his good name, the legitimacy of his 354 victories and a spot in the Hall of Fame.

In contrast to A-Rod, Clemens had to know which questions were coming. But amid the heated denials, there were inconsistencies that fueled nagging doubts that will only serve to stoke the debate.

Much of the pre-interview speculation focused on the role of Wallace because Clemens expressly asked for him to conduct the interview. Wallace is chummy with Clemens and enjoys watching Yankees games from owner George Steinbrenner's private box, so it was assumed that he'd lob all sorts of softball questions and look at Clemens in that annoying, hero-worshipping sort of way.

Let's give that one a rest. Unless you expected a suave, 89-year-old journalist-about-town to grab Clemens' shirt collar and wring a confession out of him, Wallace did fine. People who thought he was soft on Clemens don't remember the classic Lesley Stahl-Scott Boras interview on "60 Minutes." Now that was fawning.

Could Wallace have followed up on several core elements and pressed Clemens for details? Sure. For all we know, he did but Clemens' responses were edited down to fit into a neat little 13-minute, 54-second package.

Wallace asked enough pertinent questions to induce Clemens to trip over his own shoelaces, and that was enough.

The Andy Pettitte question, for starters. Clemens and Pettitte are down-home Texas buddies who are joined at the hip, right down to their trainer. To think that Pettitte would be juicing and Clemens would be "shocked" to learn about it simply defies logic.

It's almost as hard to believe as Clemens' contention that if he took performance enhancers, "I should have a third ear coming out of my forehead" and "be pulling tractors with my teeth." Clemens has pitched in the big leagues since 1984, and he expects us to believe that he thinks Winstrol turns you into a circus freak?

Two words, Roger: Rafael Palmeiro.

Clemens' biggest problem, in the eyes of most dispassionate observers, is explaining why McNamee would falsely sell him out in the Mitchell report. The two men were, by all accounts, close friends, and McNamee faced a prison term if he wasn't truthful with federal authorities.

"What did McNamee gain by lying?" Wallace asked.

Clemens' reply -- that McNamee was just a desperate steroid peddler looking to avoid a jail sentence -- seemed defensive and woefully inadequate. It just didn't ring true.

Wallace did ask the two obligatory questions du jour posed to every public figure who has been wronged: If Clemens is so desperate to prove his innocence, why doesn't he: (a) file a lawsuit or (b) take a lie-detector test?

Clemens' measured response to both questions won't play well in middle America. But lie-detector test results are inadmissible in a court of law, and the notion that every celebrity with a tarnished reputation should assume the burden of proof and spend millions on legal fees has, frankly, grown a bit tiresome.

The minute Clemens consents to a lie-detector test, dozens of columnists will be ripping him for grandstanding or engaging in a publicity stunt. And he knows it.

That's our country, isn't it? Guilty before innocent.

--Roger Clemens
"That's our country, isn't it?" Clemens said. "Guilty before innocent. That's the way our country works now."

Near the end of the interview, there was one snippet of true enlightenment. Two years ago, at a World Baseball Classic news conference, Clemens expressed concerns about the long-term impact of all the painkillers he took during his career. He reiterated those concerns to Wallace on Sunday.

"I was eating Vioxx like it was Skittles," Clemens said. "And now these people who were supposedly regulating it tell me that it's bad for my heart. I don't know what the future holds because of the medicine that I've eaten. But I trusted that it was not harmful."

That's a heartfelt sentiment, but it doesn't feed the steroid "gotcha" frenzy that drives sports news or prompts congressional hearings. We really don't care about the health of fat NFL linemen who die prematurely from heart disease or pitchers who take painkillers -- only the ethics of pitchers who use performance enhancers to help our favorite teams and our fantasy teams.

News flash: The steroid saga is a complicated mess. So let's take the Clemens interview for what it's worth. If he's telling the truth, he got his chance to vent. And if he's lying, he's out on a very tenuous limb.

Realistically, the millions of baseball fans who've made up their minds on Clemens weren't going to be swayed one iota by his encounter with Wallace. They probably had more faith in that "60 Minutes" Boston mob hit man than in the Rocket.

Jerry Crasnick covers baseball for ESPN.com. His book "License To Deal" was published by Rodale. Click here to order a copy. Jerry can be reached via e-mail.

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Post  RedMagma on Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:56 am

Fielding all the hard shots
Clemens on McNamee’s allegations that he injected him with steroids: ‘It never happened’



http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sproger075529183jan07,0,7892043.story?track=rss


BY KAT O'BRIEN | kat.obrien@newsday.com; Staff writer Wallace Matthews contributed
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HOUSTON - Roger Clemens fired back at the allegations of steroid use against him, denying ever using any type of performance-enhancing drugs in an interview with Mike Wallace that aired on "60 Minutes" last night.

Clemens said of the Mitchell Report allegations by his former trainer, Brian McNamee, who had said he injected Clemens with steroids: "It never happened. It never happened ... If I had all these needles and these steroids and all these drugs, where did I get them, where is the person that gave them to me? Please come forward."

The 45-year-old righthander, who has won seven Cy Young Awards and has 354 victories, said he is angry that so many people have taken McNamee's allegations as fact.

"It's hogwash for people to even assume this," Clemens said on the show. "Twenty-four, 25 years, Mike. You'd think I'd get an inch of respect. An inch."

Beginning in the 2003 season, Clemens has talked about retiring, only to wind up pitching again. Last night, in an interview that was taped in his Houston-area home Dec. 28, Clemens said retirement might be real this time.

All of the questioning of his accomplishments, Clemens said, has worn on him: "If I had to sit here and tell you right now, I would say yes ... You'll never see me pitch again."

Clemens said he was stunned at McNamee's allegations. Yet as Newsday reported yesterday, Clemens and McNamee had an hour-long phone conversation Friday night. A source said the government is investigating witness tampering with regard to that call.

When George Mitchell asked to interview him before the Dec. 13 release of the Mitchell Report, Clemens declined. McNamee had told Mitchell he injected Clemens with steroids and HGH about 16 to 21 times during 1998, 2000 and 2001 - before players and owners agreed to ban illegal performance-enhancing substances. Clemens said if he had known about those allegations, he would have met with Mitchell.

"If I would have known what this man Brian McNamee said in this report, I would have been down there in a heartbeat," Clemens said.

McNamee, a former Blue Jays and Yankees trainer and personal trainer of Clemens, also accused Andy Pettitte - a close friend of Clemens - of using human growth hormone on two to four occasions in 2002. Pettitte later admitted having done so, an admission that many believe gives credence to McNamee's allegations against Clemens.

"I had no knowledge of what Andy was doing," Clemens said. "Andy's case is totally separate. I was shocked to learn about Andy's situation, had no idea about it."

Clemens will meet with reporters today in a downtown Houston news conference. He also has been asked to testify before Congress Jan. 16. He did not deny that McNamee had given him injections but said they were simply the painkiller lidocaine and vitamin B-12.

Wallace asked, "Never a human growth hormone?"

Clemens: "Never."

Wallace: "Never testosterone?"

Clemens: "Never."

Wallace: "Never anabolic steroids?"

Clemens: "Never."

Wallace: "Swear?"

Clemens: "Swear."

In the interview, Clemens indicated he does not believe steroids help a player in the long run. He also said that if he had taken all the things McNamee accused him of, "I should have a third ear coming out of my forehead, I should be pulling tractors with my teeth. It never happened. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. It just didn't happen."

He also railed against those who regulate the drug Vioxx, an arthritis medication later shown to cause increased risk of heart attack and stroke. Clemens said: "I was eating Vioxx like it was Skittles, and now these people who are supposedly regulating it tell me it's bad for my heart."

Clemens left open the possibility that he might submit to a lie detector test. He also said he is looking into the possibility of a lawsuit but is not sure it is worth the cost and the "headache."

A lawyer for McNamee, Richard Emery, has said McNamee might sue Clemens. Emery said last night: "Congress must be salivating at the bit to get this guy in front of them. Any reasonable questioning will break them down. He's pitched himself into a corner. I can't imagine how any lawyer would allow his client to go on '60 Minutes' and lie like this."

Clemens' attorney, Rusty Hardin, told The Associated Press: "Anyone not persuaded by that interview is not a well person."

Staff writer Wallace Matthews contributed to this story.

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Post  RedMagma on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:02 am

Warming up for the Clemens interview

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

As we wait to see what Roger Clemens has to say on 60 Minutes tonight, check out the terrific guest post by Pat Jordan today over at Baseball Analysts.

If you haven’t read Jordan’s stuff before, make sure you get the collection of his work that will be coming out soon. Alex Belth served as the editor.

Meanwhile, Newsday reports that Clemens and Brian McNamee recently spoke on the telephone. Must have been quite a conversation.

We’ll be live-blogging the Clemens interview.

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Post  RedMagma on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:02 am

Live-blogging the Clemens interview

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The football watching is over and now we’re turning our attention to Roger Clemens on 60 Minutes. The Rocket will be the third segment, behind the president of Pakistan and a Mafia hitman.

Now that Clemens has been called to testify before Congress later this month, this interview has lost a little significance. We’re not expecting any great revelations. But it’ll be interesting to see whether 89-year-old Mike Wallace makes the Rocket squirm a little.

UPDATE, 7:49 p.m.: Hey, the president of Pakistan has one of those blue dress shirts with a white collar like Bob Kraft. Wonder if he knows Tom Brady?

UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: The Associated Press saw the interview already and has a story.

UPDATE, 7:57 p.m.: According to Wikipedia, Wallace has had four wives (impressive) and retired in 2006. He also went to Michigan. He’s at the Stadium pretty often and always sits in George Steinbrenner’s box. Wonder if Hank will let him in this season?

UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: The hitman is on now. Steve “Sid and Marty” Kroft is interviewing him.

UPDATE, 8:07 p.m.: The hitman is from Boston. Turns out he played high school football with the late Ed Bradley.

UPDATE, 8:12 p.m.: Here’s the complete transcript of the Clemens interview.

UPDATE, 8:14 p.m.: Turns out the hitman went to the Feds, testified, did 14 years and got out last year. The Kirk Radomski of killers.

UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: The hitman is done. Clemens up next.

UPDATE, 8:17 p.m.: The interview was conducted more than a week ago in Texas. Wonder if they’ll show old Roger hanging out with Koby, Kory, Korncob, Krazy Kat, Koala and the rest of those Clemens kids?

UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Comanche Moon will be on CBS next Sunday in case you missed the 1,187 commercials today.

UPDATE, 8:20 p.m.: This is the first ballplayer Wallace has interviewed since Wee Willie Keeler.

UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: Clemens says he’s a good player and good guy, so we should believe him.

UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Wallace is reading the Mitchell Report to Clemens. Roger is denying it all. … Roger really does look furious.

UPDATE, 8:24 p.m.: “Never happened” seems to the stock answer. Can McNamee sue over this?

UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: Roger is drinking a lot of water. Probably a masking agent. Roger is “pissed off.”

UPDATE, 8:26 p.m.: McNamee ratted then used Roger’s fishing equipment in Cabo. That bum.

UPDATE, 8:27 p.m.: Roger knows nothing about Andy Pettitte’s HGH use. “Andy’s case is totally seperate. I was shocked to learn about it,” he says.

UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Clemens said he got painkiller and B-12 injections. He also got pain shots. He says Torre shut him down when he wanted to get a shot. He had a “golf ball” in his elbow.

UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: Clemens said he ate Vioxx like Skittles. That explains some of his postgame interviews. … Mike Wallace is pretty sharp for 89.

UPDATE, 8:31 p.m.: Roger says he would tell Congress the same thing as Wallace. He’s waving his arms now. He’s blaming the country for thinking he’s guilty. … McNamee refused to talk to CBS.

UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Roger says he “probably” will retire. We’ve heard that before.

UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Interview over. Nothing to see here, folks. Little substance.

UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: If you didn’t believe Clemens, I don’t see how this interview would change your mind. He was angry but that’s easy to fake. His defense was that people should believe him because of who he is.

The testimony before Congress will be much more revealing, I suspect. Hard to rehearse those answers.

UPDATE, 8:37 p.m.: Hey, Andy Rooney is still alive!

UPDATE, 8:39 p.m.: I have no idea what he just said. Something about the presidential candidates having unimpressive names. Thanks, Andy.

OK, that’s it for the live blog. Thanks for checking in

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# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

Eighty nine?

Wow.

Of course Clemens is the third segment, that’s the only way they’ll keep viewers for the entirety of the show!
# mary ellen January 6th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

I can’t believe this guy Mushariff is blaming Bhutto for killing herself because she stood up in her car and he says it with a smirk on his face. Thank God we live in the USA - it can be dangerous here but at least nobody laughs when there’s a killing!
# Sean January 6th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

Rebecca, 60 Minutes doesn’t exactly need baseball fans watching… they do quite well.
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Tape delay in my time zone. Please provide play-by-play and color analysis. Thanks!
# Amitiza January 6th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

yawn
Mushariff
yawn
Bhutto
yawn
Clemens
yawn
# Don Capone January 6th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

I heard the audio on 880. Clemens was pretty emphatic.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Interesting article, Well if you supplied Roger come out and tell us!! We are waiting.
# Wolf In Pinstripes January 6th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

It kind of spoils the fun of watching the interview to know that the AP has already seen the entire thing and commented on it. That’s not a knock on you for reporting it, Pete. I just hate that everybody’s not on an even playing field when it comes to hearing what was said in the interview since we’ve all been anticipating it up to this point. It’s akin to someone on the East coast announcing who wins a televised primetime contest while you’re on the West coast still watching the show 3 hours behind.

Oh well, technology is great. LOL
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

oh Damn I forgot that they play it on the radio. Did he say anything of interest?
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

Wolf: I agree, it kind of does spoil the fun!
# Mike January 6th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

here’s the full transcript:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/01/clemens_on_60_m.html
# gayle January 6th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

Having lived in Boston during the heyday of the search for Whitey Bulger the hit man interview is fascinating. His brother was president of the Ciy COuncil it was always interesting hearing about Boston politics
# Wolf In Pinstripes January 6th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Thanks Rebecca - although I guess in retrospect, “fun” is an odd word to use regarding this particular situation. LOL

I have to admit I just read the article, but I’m still going to watch the televised interview to watch Roger’s body language and such.
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Yeah, this interview is kind of interesting…
# Drew January 6th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

So who will more full of it? Clemens, Musharif, or this piece of garbage thug?
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

Roger is right about the fact that he hasn’t broken down. If he took that much in steroids, why hasn’t he? Also why did he stop?
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

The hit man interview is really interesting, movie quality stuff.
# Drew January 6th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

“The hit man interview is really interesting, movie quality stuff.”

Interesting? I disagree. He’s a piece of human filth. Somehow, he fancies himself as a hero. This guy should be in prison until he’s dead.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

I’m waiting for the body language experts to watch Rogers interview and analize it.

One portion I’ve seen he says no while shaking his head yes.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

Drew exactly,

He is speaking so matter of factly and he killed at least 20 people.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

He is Catholic, and he doesn’t believe he is going to hell.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

He just said he would kill again!!
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

CLEMENS Well, I think he’s been buying and movin’ steroids.

McNamee’s lawyers must be in heaven about this. Wait. Unless it’s true? What were the feds after him for?
# gayle January 6th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

BY the way cant wait for Commanche Moon
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

Okay it is on!!
# Phil January 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

40 minutes until the best show on television returns for the fifth and final season!!! The Wire!!!
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

Here we go.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

He looks pretty darn good for 89!!
# John in Ohio January 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

Pete

DO YOU THINK CLEMENS ASKED FOR THE HITMAN’S PHONE NUMBER??
# Phil January 6th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

Mike Wallace looks great for a 90 year old man. I hope I look that good when I’m 60.
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

drew: I didn’t say the guy was a saint…
# Stephen January 6th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

Again, Roger’s first line of defense is “Look at all I’ve done for baseball. Why won’t you just believe me?”

I’m a Clemens fan, but that’s weak.
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

He doesn’t have the arms like Jason and Bonds have.
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

Clemens sounds rehearsed.
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

Stephen,

I’m not an apologist, but if he’s innocent he’s got every right to feel indignant. Many people and the media were quick to assume he was guilty. Again, that’s if he’s innocent.

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# Andrea January 6th, 2008 at 8:46 pm

I fell asleep and missed most of it. damn it!
# Boston Dave January 6th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

the only thing I learned from that interview is that Brian McNamee is indeed….. a real scumbag.

“Hey Roger, where’d you leave all that great fishing equipment?”
# Stephen January 6th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

His anger doesn’t mean much to me. Either he’s angry because they’re all lies, or he’s angry because his entire career and legend is blowing up in his face.

Either way, I think he’d be angry.
# scott Mandell January 6th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

seems like that “if i bought this stuff, who sold it to me” sounds like whitney houston asking her drug dealer to come forward with receipts for her crack! clemens was sweating, swallowing and setting up a “VIOXX” explanation of why he is going eventually to break down. he is just a pathological egomaniac who can’t believe he’s been caught. astonishing.
# Tyler January 6th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

Doesn’t anyone realize how ridiculous it is that people are calling for him to take a lie detector test?

Shouldn’t McNamee be the one taking the test, since he’s making the claims? McNamee needs to prove Roger is guily… Roger doesn’t need to prove he’s innocent.

Besides, Polygraphs are very flaud and are anything but reliable. If Roger were to take one and the test was wrong, he would be screwed. And Polygraphs are wrong more often then people think. They aren’t considered enough evidence by themeselves to prove guilt in a court of law.
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

There’s a reason why polygraph tests are not admissable as evidence.
# Boston Dave January 6th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

scott mandell - watch it again. not sure how you made your analysis but its way off.
# murphydog January 6th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

“Clemens sounds rehearsed.”

Rebecca: I suppose a few more “duhs” and “ums” and some stammering would have made him sound more truthful? (j/k) Clemens is a jock, not William Jennings Bryan.

I thought he did reasonably well considering that it’s pretty hard to prove a negative. And Wallace didn’t throw him softballs either. Keep in mind nobody has seen McNamee answer any questions at this point to be able to evaluate his demeanor and compare it to Clemens. If McNamee comes off not so smooth I don’t want to hear people excusing that. McNamee was a cop and had some practice testifying in his admittedly short (I wonder why) career as a cop. He’s also got a Master’s Degree, a bit more education than Roger. McNamee has to do a lot better than, “As Senator Mitchell said, why would I lie?”
# scott Mandell January 6th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

boston dave…didn’t he asked whoever sold it to him to come forward? didn’t whitney houston request the same thing? isn’t he setting up a vioxx excuse? watch it again, dave.
# Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 6th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

Murphydog: It’s not the uhs and the umms, or lack thereof…it’s the way Clemens looked really stiff the entire time.

He certainly sounded pissed, but, for me at least, there was something off about the whole thing.
# Boston Dave January 6th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

scott mandell -

hope you never end up on a jury…. or vote. your attempted parallels are laughable.
# murphydog January 6th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

Did I read that AP story right? McNamee and Roger spoke on Friday? Whaaaat? (Is McNamee still working for the Feds, trying to get Roger to incriminate himself?)
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

I’ll just record both of them cover my bases.
# Wolf In Pinstripes January 6th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

Yeah, it seemed rehearsed, but I’m sure all of us would be rehearsing in our heads what we were going to say if we knew this interview was coming up on our agenda.

A lot of eyes darting around and repetitive denials. I keep asking myself how I would react if I were in that seat and I know that not only would my frustration show, but I would be hesitant to look firmly in the interviewer’s eyes the entire time as well.

The whole fishing equipment thing…. geez, that’s just low. That’s a conundrum in itself though - as much as it would be the “decent” thing to do by letting someone know they just talked to authorities and your name might be brought up - it wouldn’t be an easy thing to do either. But at the smae time - to be contacting him at that particular time to use fishing equipment is pretty crappy and selfish.

I’m still not convinced one way or another, but I’m leaning towards saying Roger didn’t do a very good job of convincing me he didn’t do it.

I will say that it’s the first time I have ever heard the phrase “The higher you are on the flagpole, the more your butt shows.” Classic.
# erikp2 January 6th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

If its Clemens’ assertion that he took certain injections for legitimate medicinal or therapeutic reasons, wouldn’t the teams he played for be able to corroborate that? I mean, is it typical that a player would be doing all this self-medicating without the team’s knowledge? Especially in the case where McNamee injected Clemens while he was the Blue Jay’s strength and conditioning coach, wouldn’t records have been kept by the team about this?
# jay destro January 6th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

i gained nothing from watching this… roger gave nothing but the same rhetoric… such is life in the post mitchell report world of roger clemens.
# Boston Dave January 6th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

Wolf - some good points… but what can Roger realistically say to prove his innocence? what do you think he should have said, if innocent, to convince more people?
# Wolf In Pinstripes January 6th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

murph - excellent points as always. McNamee should have to be put in a hot seat as well so that his reaction can be gauged too.

And the whole thing about speaking on Friday - what the hell was that all about? I mean, besides Clemens telling McNamee he was going to put a boot up his biscuit?

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# murphydog January 6th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

Rebecca:

Well, everybody sees different things. That’s why juries have more than one person.

I think that he was understandably tight under the circumstances. He’s talking to Mike Wallace on National TV about serious stuff (not a baseball game), and he’s angry and saying he was falsely accused. Also, there was a lot of editing so it’s going to look a little chopped up.

I know I’ve never seen Roger talk about anything other than baseball so I don’t know what he’s like when he talking about anything else. For all I know, this is Roger. But like I said before, nobody has seen McNamee answer questions. Let’s keep an open mind and see how McNamee does.
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

Wolf,

Thanks a lot. I had erased the image of Roger’s big white butt out of my head. How long until Thanksgiving?
# scott Mandell January 6th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

dave the only laughable thing tonight was roger clemens’ performance and denials. my comparison to the diane sawyer interview with whitney houston is indeed valid. they are both public figures being interviewed on television about rumored problems with drugs. whitney “kiss my ass” houston said that if it was true that she was using crack, let the dealer come forth with receipts. yes, she really said that. to me, that was as false as roger (blame it on the vioxx) clemens asking why the people who have sold him his drugs haven’t come forward. it’s not a difficult analogy. no need for insults, either
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

Yeah what a dirt bag, can I use your fishing equipment.
# li January 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

As long as he stays retired I don’t really care how much Vioxx he ate or how often he got injected in the butt.
# Wolf In Pinstripes January 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

Boston Dave - I don’t know. I really don’t. I wasn’t trying to incriminate Roger with my remarks there, or suggest that I believe he cheated - because I still have yet to see or hear anything that really puts me on either side of the fence.

You’re right, though - what can he realistically say? And even Roger said that people have pretty much made up their mind in the public court and he has no idea how to defend himself because of that.
# Wolf In Pinstripes January 6th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

LOL! Sorry mel. Embarassed

baseball, baseball, think baseball, think baseball. Oh wait, that’s not going to help you in this case. Wink

Umm… I dunno, do a google search for your favorite male hottie and cleanse the palate. (shrugs)
# Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 6th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

murphydog

Don’t talk about juries, Sad I was called for jury duty, I don’t want to go.
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

lol, Wolf. I’m a little old to have those kinds of fantasies. Maybe I’ll just focus on the Yankees winning the World Series. You know. Keep your eye on the prize.
# mel-I'm psyched! How about you? January 6th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

Jennifer,

I worked with an old lady a long time ago who had a surefire way of getting out of jury duty.

She told the judge that she could tell someone was guilty just by looking at them.
# PAT M. January 6th, 2008 at 9:17 pm

Do I bother to watch it ???? The fallout of living on the Left Coast is that I have to wait 3 hours after just about everyone here has seen it, and has commented about……
# Boston Dave January 6th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

Scott Mandell - If Clemens were innocent, then why would his denials be laughable? It’s pretty sad that we have people like you in the world who are willing to make up their minds based on little or no evidence. Whether or not Clemens is guilty, there is nobody in this blog who can be as definitive as you are without sounding like an ignorant fool.

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Post  RedMagma on Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:58 pm

More trouble for McNamee

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-clemens-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns


A St. Petersburg, Fla., police detective wrote in a report that Brian McNamee lied to him during the investigation of a possible rape in 2001. Here’s the AP story.

As days pass, it becomes harder to believe McNamee. There is documented evidence that he lied to reporters over the years. He has contradicted himself on other occasions and now apparently he lied to police.

McNamee lied to reporters. McNamee lied to the cops. But he told the truth to George Mitchell?

A friend asked me this question today: Is it possible McNamee injected Roger Clemens with steroids but told him they were painkillers or B-12? McNamee was a nobody until he started training Clemens. Might he have been so desperate to keep his job that he resorted to steroids to give Clemens a false sense of accomplishment?

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Post  RedMagma on Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:02 pm

Roger Clemens-S-Yankees Jan. 8 - 6:52 pm et

According to documents released Tuesday, detectives believe Brian McNamee lied to them during an investigation of a possible rape in Florida in 2001.
Police said Brian McNamee denied having sex with a possibly drugged woman in a hotel pool, even though security guards and other witnesses said they saw him. GHB was found at the scene, and McNamee refused to submit a saliva sample for DNA analysis, the documents said. The incident apparently led to McNamee's termination from the Yankees in 2001, but Roger Clemens went on to hire him as his personal trainer anyway. If damaging McNamee's credability was the goal here, mission accomplished. It certainly doesn't make Clemens look any better, though.
Source: The Associated Press

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1. jay destro January 8th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

too conspiracy theorist for my taste
2. Marc January 8th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Gee, way to help turn the page on the steroid era Selig.
3. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

I wondered about that, if that was true, I don’t know how it would fly with the public. Espically since Sheffield and others have used that excuse.

The one who is really in a bad spot right now is Pettitte, he used HGH twice, yet his name keeps getting linked about to Roger and Mcnamee. Congress will likely supena him hoping that Roger said something to Andy re: roids, hgh etc.
4. Wiggum Fan January 8th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

If you check the comments from a few days ago, I posed the theory that McNamee injected Clemens and told him it was B12.
5. Jaewon January 8th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Attention Blog:

With the Hall of Fame votws today, and all the big Clemens steriod talk going around, I believe we have accidently overlooked the birhtday of 1B/DH Jason Giambi. If I still know how to add, today he turned 37!

Happy Birthday Jason!
6. JeterMack Clutch January 8th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

whaaaaa.. attempted rape?
7. kd January 8th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

but how would clemens prove that he lied to mitchell in a court of law? i’m not a lawyer, but this seems pretty tough to me
8. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Marc, Bud is another one sitting in his ivory tower. He was the commish when the roid era was at his highest.

As acting commissioner, he presided over the 1994 players strike and resulting cancellation of the World Series (the first time it had not been staged since 1904).

Yet he has skated in the media in general. Also in retrospect was this report such a good thing? Did they really need to do this? All it has done is keep steriods and baseball on the front page papers.
9. Jaewon January 8th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Edit:
votws=votes,
birhtday=birthday
10. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

kd it would prove that he isn’t this truthful figure he is trying to protray himself as.
11. abe January 8th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

I seem to be in the minority now, but even if Clemens wins in court, I still think he did PED’s. McNamee might not be credible in the legal world, but his accounts about this and Clemens’ performance are quite consistent.

After all, OJ is innocent as far as the criminal case goes.
12. Phil January 8th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

I don’t believe McNamee nor Clemens anymore. I wish they’d both just go away.
13. mel January 8th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

Too Munchausen Syndrome for my tastes. But I do think that McNamee is in the situation he’s in because of bad judgement, bad character, and poor decisions. That’s neither here nor there in regards to Clemens. But it still sucks for Roger and his familty.
14. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Whoa I didn’t realize that someone actually caught him in the act!! He is such a sleaze ball!!
15. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

I would like to ask Roger on thing though, why would you hire someone accused of rape to work for you? He would be around your wife.
16. mel January 8th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

We knew all of this anyway. But the smear campaign is kicking into high gear.
17. JJNJ January 8th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

Jennifer - He was hired by the Yankees and Roger before he was accused of rape. They both fired him.
18. Marcy January 8th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

Whoa, that’s a turn-around. I admit although still on the fence about Roger the idea of being guilty until innocent has been bothering me. Also, I did a bit of homework about McNamee and this guy has a really checkered past - I think that is what Clemens and his attorney were pointing towards yesterday without coming and defaming McNamee. The whole PhD thing - asking his clients to call him Dr. and not having a legitimate PhD on top of the rape allegations, 2 DUI’s, drug dealing, lying about unemployment, and just on and on. This guy wasn’t stupid but he is sleazy. Also, he apparently was a good trainer. He may have preferred to be known as a liar than a dealer but clearly, he is both. To call Clemens and try to get Clemens to tell him what he wanted him to do so as to entrap him, to give the papers the fact that there was a call because it didn’t go as he wanted and knew Roger would make it public, to tell Heyman all that nonsense after the 60 Minutes piece but not mention the phone call - I’d still like to know if McNamee and son are really in bad shape, if there was anyone that offered him 7 figures but I guess the easiest way for Roger to get some credibility back would be if he can provide a Dr. or a Dr’s script for the meds injected. I’ll say 1 thing - if it isn’t true that Roger Clemens took steroids but got caught up in the steroid era then that is a HUGE indictment on MLB and the media.
19. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 8th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Pete: I asked that question yesterday.

Buddy, from the last friend: I have a few connections to Brooklyn, so it’s not an issue for me to continue to support the Nets in Brooklyn :-D
20. sunny615 January 8th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

Is it possible McNamee injected Roger Clemens with steroids but told him they were painkillers or B-12?
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wouldn’t shock me.
21. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

jjnj

Although the state attorney’s office decided not to press charges, the accusations ended McNamee’s career with the Yankees.

The Yankees did not give a specific reason for terminating McNamee.

Clemens then hired McNamee as his personal trainer. According to the pitcher’s lawsuit, McNamee told him that his actions were “actually a life-saving attempt.”

22. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 8th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

McNamee’s lawyer said Roger wasn’t even on their radar. So my question to McNamee, why even mention Rogers name? Was it to make fully sure that you got off without any jail time?
23. Old Yanks Fan January 8th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Boddicker: “I tell you right now, I’ve seen Roger Clemens get injected with a B-12 vitamin shot. I was in the trainer’s room back in Boston when the trainer injected him. Unless B-12 is illegal, I’m believing Roger. If it’s this guy’s word against Roger, I’ll go with Roger every time. I had a locker right next to him in Boston and I can tell you this was the most dedicated athlete I’ve ever been around. The reason he had to take the B-12 was because he overworked himself. People say he’s still performing past 40 and he must be doing something. Well, Nolan Ryan did it.”

Unfortunately, he did not say if the shot was in Rogers butt or not. A number of Doctors have stated that lidocaine does NOT get shot in the butt. Does V-B12? One issue that is not clear is IF these shots that Roger admits getting were in his butt or stomach.

McNamee is definitely a sleezebag, but that’s not the point. Sleezebags often tell the truth, and honest people sometimes lie. The real issue is if the Feds/Mitchell exerted enough pressure on McNamee for him to give Roger up, truthfully or falsely. I do believe McNamee has strong feelings for Roger, and would not give him up without a specific reason. I think the answers are in the dark room where McNamee was ‘interrorgated’.

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Post  RedMagma on Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:04 pm

Whoa, that’s a turn-around. I admit although still on the fence about Roger the idea of being guilty until innocent has been bothering me. Also, I did a bit of homework about McNamee and this guy has a really checkered past - I think that is what Clemens and his attorney were pointing towards yesterday without coming and defaming McNamee. The whole PhD thing - asking his clients to call him Dr. and not having a legitimate PhD on top of the rape allegations, 2 DUI’s, drug dealing, lying about unemployment, and just on and on. This guy wasn’t stupid but he is sleazy. Also, he apparently was a good trainer. He may have preferred to be known as a liar than a dealer but clearly, he is both. To call Clemens and try to get Clemens to tell him what he wanted him to do so as to entrap him, to give the papers the fact that there was a call because it didn’t go as he wanted and knew Roger would make it public, to tell Heyman all that nonsense after the 60 Minutes piece but not mention the phone call - I’d still like to know if McNamee and son are really in bad shape, if there was anyone that offered him 7 figures but I guess the easiest way for Roger to get some credibility back would be if he can provide a Dr. or a Dr’s script for the meds injected. I’ll say 1 thing - if it isn’t true that Roger Clemens took steroids but got caught up in the steroid era then that is a HUGE indictment on MLB and the media.

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Post  RedMagma on Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:06 pm

Question

How on earth is anyone supposed to believe anything this guy says???? And Mitchell was so quick to take everything this guy says and write it down and make a report about it. And why is it so many level headed americans just jump on this guys wagon for the ride he is taking us on. And take his word over a player we have watched for years upon years.

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Post  RedMagma on Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:06 pm

i was under the impresion that the victim doesn't have to cooperate in order for the state to pursuit a criminal charge.
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i was under the impresion that the victim doesn't have to cooperate in order for the state to pursuit a criminal charge.

in a rape case?

most rape cases are hard enough to prove with a cooperating victim.they are impossible without one and no district attorney who wants to be re-elected in the future will ever pursue one.

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Post  RedMagma on Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:59 am

Newsday -Yankees still eye Santana

BY KAT O'BRIEN | kat.obrien@newsday.com
January 9, 2008


Roger Clemens is dominating headlines these days, not Johan Santana. Yet nearly two months after the Yankees first engaged in trade talks with the Twins over Santana, the Minnesota ace is not off the Yankees' radar.

"There's definitely still a possibility," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said by phone yesterday afternoon.

But, Steinbrenner cautioned, there is "nothing new" with regards to Santana.


Steinbrenner acknowledged that there are several concerns that give the Yankees pause about trading for Santana: The high level of players the Yankees would have to give up in a trade, the large and lengthy contract Santana would command (and the effect on the Yankees' payroll), and the fact that not everyone in the organization is thinking the same way.

It is believed that general partner Hal Steinbrenner (Hank's younger brother) and general manager Brian Cashman have reservations.

"The bottom line is, it's my decision," Hank Steinbrenner said, "but there's disagreement within the organization. I've got to keep everybody happy in the organization, including Brian ... That includes my partner, which is my brother."

The Yankees proposed a trade in early December that would have sent righthander Phil Hughes and centerfielder Melky Cabrera, along with one or two midlevel prospects, to Minnesota.

Santana, 28, is a two-time Cy Young Award winner due to be a free agent after this season. Given his youth, health, accomplishments and the fact that he is a lefthander, many believe he will ink the most lucrative contract ever by a pitcher.

"The payroll would just be out of this world this year," Steinbrenner said of potentially adding Santana, "but only for this year. When you've got to trade top young talent and pay a lot of money, it gets very risky."

If the Yankees do complete a trade for Santana, Steinbrenner said they would not go beyond a five-year contract extension (one that expires after the 2013 season).

"I wouldn't do it if it were a six- or seven-year contract," Steinbrenner said. "I wouldn't go past five, on an extension."

Notes & quotes: Steinbrenner said the Yankees remain committed to having Joba Chamberlain in the starting rotation, and are not looking at him as a possible eighth-inning answer.

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