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Re: Santana

Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:30 am

Slippery Slope


All of the talking heads agree that beating Dallas is directly proportional to the amount of pressure put on Tony Romo. To a certain degree, that's true. However, even more important, for my money, is contain, as in containing Romo. Allowing Romo to avoid the pressure by escaping the pocket is tantamount to a death sentence. Romo, escaping the pocket and buying time, is the key reason for the Cowboy's 13-3 record. In fact, scrambling out of the pocket, buying time, is his game...

Accordingly, 90% of our blitzes MUST BE ZONE BLITZES. We need to put tons of pressure on Romo, while forcing him to stay in the pocket. This is NOT an easy task, and will require a lot of discipline. The defense has to come under control and make tackles at the point of contact. If they over-pursue and miss tackles, it's gonna' be a long day. If the defensive ends don't stay home, cut backs and misdirection, will send us packing early...

Discipline and Contain are the keys to success in Dallas on Sunday...


Absolutely. It should be a great game to watch. We also have to beat the chit out of Witten and TO at the line of scrimmage. We can't buy into the TO injury, either. Gotta' cover him like he's 100%. Also, Jason Witten can be is lethal, especially on third downs...

some of the Giants D have said they believe the whole reason they didn't get to Romo much the first two game was because they were more concerned with keeping him in the pocket... I think he's better outside the pocket as you say, but from what I got from the Giants that was their gameplan the first two games.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:31 am

Play-action prowess gives Brady, Manning decided edge
Garber


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/columns/story?columnist=garber_greg&id=3185256


The Colts' Peyton Manning is a master at the play-action pass. "He makes it look like a run for a real long time, and then sets up faster than anybody I've ever seen. ... In my opinion, Peyton's the best right now," ex-NFL quarterback Steve DeBerg said.

Handsome and athletic, the Colts' Peyton Manning and the Patriots' Tom Brady lead the league in commercials and magazine covers. They are the best two quarterbacks in the NFL and play for, arguably, the best two teams. They also happen to share another, less savory trait: They are both, in a manner of speaking, terrific liars.

Listen to Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young:

"Both of them are pretty good at getting that ball in and letting people believe that the running back's got the ball. It's kind of lost its art form. There are very few, in my mind, that are really good at it."

Magic Men

Back in the 1960s when Sam Wyche played quarterback at Furman, the play-action pass was called the "Belly" series.

"You'd put the ball right in the belly of the back, and you would either give it to him or pull it back," Wyche explained.

He is better known for introducing the no-huddle as a standard offense when he was head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, but Wyche is also an authority on the play-action pass. Here are a few of his favorite quarterbacks who mastered that rare art form:

Joe Montana: "I was lucky to learn from Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, too. I thought Joe was an outstanding ball-handler. [He would] give the illusion that something's about to happen -- it's happened so many times over in the study of film -- that the players have to react to it."

Boomer Esiason: "I remember Boomer used to really emphasize -- 'This is a run-action play.' What he was saying quickly to the linemen is 'I need a little extra time now, because this one is going to go down the field. We've got to give that receiver time to run.' Boomer was a little bit unusual because he was left-handed, so a lot of those fakes were coming at the side they weren't used to seeing."

Steve DeBerg: "He could literally make the ball disappear. In fact, sometimes in practice the ball would be stuffed under his shirt with a I-don't-know-where-it-is kind of look on his face. It's a lot like prestidigitation, magic, sleight of hand."

Peyton Manning: "Clearly, of all the guys I haven't coached, Peyton Manning would be among the best. When you break it down, what Peyton does is a thing of beauty. When you're sitting in the stands, you don't watch the guards and tackles play. They watch the ball, then suddenly the ball disappeared and then it pops up again. That's performance. That's entertainment."

-- Greg Garber

Young is talking about the play-action pass and, in the category of the rich get richer, Manning and Brady are among the league's most clever practitioners. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, nearly one in five NFL passes is typically a play-action pass. It's an under-the-radar play, but it is worth noting that there were a handful of critical play-actions in the first weekend of playoff games.

Perhaps the most pivotal touchdown of Wild Card Weekend came off a play-action fake. With San Diego trailing Tennessee 6-3, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers appeared to hand off to LaDainian Tomlinson. But, pulling the ball back, Rivers threw a 25-yard touchdown pass to Vincent Jackson. The Chargers, of course, went on to win.

On two of the four most critical passes during the Giants' 8-minute, 37-second, fourth-quarter drive, quarterback Eli Manning play-faked to rookie running back Ahmad Bradshaw. The Giants ran 15 plays, culminating in Manning's 4-yard scoring pass to Amani Toomer, to take an insurmountable 24-7 lead.

It's a simple premise but very difficult to execute cleanly because there are so many moving parts.

The quarterback, with the help of his 10 co-conspirators, must convince the defense that a run play is developing by appearing to hand the ball to the back. Then, when the defense reacts -- creating critical time and space -- the ball materializes in the quarterback's hand. When run properly, the pass rush has been neutralized, the linebackers and safeties lured a few steps closer to the line of scrimmage and the receivers have more room to maneuver.

Manning and Brady are already the best in the business at throwing the ball, but their ability to consistently create the illusion of a run gives them an even greater advantage.

It's almost not fair.

"Honestly, I watched a lot of Peyton Manning after my first year," Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said. "He's probably the best. I try to extend the ball like I saw Peyton do a lot, and I think it sells it a little bit more."

Said Young: "Tom Brady is very good. He cares about getting it in the guy's belly, pulling it back out and letting the hand fly. It's a little piece of that puzzle that he enjoys."

All teams have different versions of the play-action pass, but clearly, teams that run the ball well are going to have an easier time fooling the defense. It helps to run play-action in down-and-distance circumstances when a run would be more plausible. Green Bay's Brett Favre wonders why teams don't use it more.

"I think at times we, including myself, have lost sight of it," Favre said. "People say, 'Well, you have to run the ball if you're going to have good play-action.' I think if you're a good magician, you can pull it off."

Deception. Illusion. Misdirection. That's what the play-action is all about.

"I think any time teams want to come and try to take away the run or put themselves in a position to make you throw the football, that allows you an advantage," said Dallas quarterback Tony Romo.

"Honestly, if the [defender] can't see the ball, he doesn't know where to go."

Tom Brady

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Tom Brady's ability to consistently create the illusion of a run gives him a great advantage.

The play unfolds …

Here, through the eyes of some of the league's best players, past and present, is what happens on a play-action pass:

Steve Young, Hall of Fame quarterback: "First thing is to have a running back that threatens people in the pre-snap. In other words, I want linebackers saying, 'I've got to watch this running back, because if he gets the football, I'm in trouble.'"

Play-Action Rankings

Although Manning is the consensus choice as the NFL's best play-action quarterback among the dozens interviewed for this story, statistics suggest that at least this year Brady has the edge. The Patriots' signal-caller has the league's highest passer rating on play-action plays (147.7), while Manning is tied for seventh, at 104.5. Twelve of Brady's league-record 50 touchdown passes came on play-action, another league-leading total.
Comp Pct Passer Rating TDs
Brady 2nd (68.4) 1st (147.7) 1st (12)
Manning 10th (63.7) 7th (104.5) tie - 7th (7)
Elias Sports Bureau
Steve DeBerg, 18-year NFL quarterback: "Some running backs don't want to act like they have the ball and get hit again, so it takes a special back to carry out the fake. Actually, the ultimate fake for a running back is that he gets tackled."

Matt Birk, Vikings center: "You identify the defense, get everybody going the same way, everybody on the same page, so every defender is accounted for. At the snap of the ball, you want to make sure it, as we say, smells like, feels like, tastes like run."

Bob Griese, Hall of Fame quarterback: "You turn your back to the line of scrimmage, turn your back to the coverage, so then when you come back around now you can't see, because everybody is standing up and you don't know where they went."

DeBerg: "It's interesting that a lot of quarterbacks don't like play-action. I didn't like it when I first started playing because I didn't like taking my eyes off the defense. In my opinion, it's the best pass protection you can have."

Donald Driver, Packers wide receiver: "We push off the ball hard enough to make the guys say, 'Oh, I think it's going to be a run,' because you're going to put your hands on him and block him (the defender)."

DeBerg: "The longer you can fake the run, whether it's a lineman, a quarterback and a running back, then it has more of an effect of making the defense get distorted, which gives the offense the advantage."

Tony Romo, Cowboys quarterback: "You're selling the play, you're giving good head movement and your shoulders, and you're trying to get the linebackers and safeties to bite a little bit."

Brian Dawkins, Eagles safety: "When the ball is snapped and the line's all low, and it's looking like a run -- everything is looking like a run, but if your eyes are not on the tight end or the receivers and they're releasing up the field, it's going to get you every time."

DeBerg: "In my mind I was trying to imagine that I was trying to make the ball disappear right in front of the defense's eyes. That's really kind of magic."

Attention to detail

DeBerg mastered the arcane art of the play-action pass and that skill helped him stay in the NFL for 18 seasons -- until the age of 45.

"It completely elevated and extended my game," DeBerg said. "It's attention to detail and it takes more effort to do it. Some quarterbacks just aren't willing to do the effort, but I believe it is very important.

"I would look at film from the 1940s and they'd do these things where you thought four different guys had the ball. It almost was like the Harlem Gobetrotters. They're doing stuff behind their back, between their legs. And then it became more and more of a passing game and the ball-handling skills became kind of a lost art."

Dick Vermeil coached both the Philadelphia Eagles and St. Louis Rams to the Super Bowl, thanks largely to his expertise on offense. He studied the play-action pass for years and came to the conclusion that his team's yards-per-completion and completion percentage were always "much better" with play-action.

Highest Play-Action Passer
Rating (Min. 50 Attempts)
Name Rating
1. Tom Brady 147.7
2. Jeff Garcia 132.4
3. Matt Schaub 117.4
4. Donovan McNabb 113.6
5. Matt Hasselbeck 111.6
7 (T). Peyton Manning 104.5
Elias Sports Bureau

"The real strong play-action [is] when everybody blocks the run full bore, then you start getting safeties coming up, especially when the tight end is down blocking and the guard is pulling and [the safety's] reading run all the way," Vermeil said.

"I like that kind of play-action, I really do."

Watch for it this weekend.

You may see Brady walk up under center on the Jacksonville goal line to operate the Patriots' short-yardage jumbo package, which features linebacker Junior Seau (at fullback) and Mike Vrabel (tight end). Brady likes to fake a handoff up the middle and, when the linebackers and safeties bite, feather a pass out to Vrabel, who has caught 11 touchdown passes, including two this season and two in Super Bowls.

Manning likes to fake the handoff to Joseph Addai, then throw it down the field to Reggie Wayne or Dallas Clark.

"If you think it's a run for a while against Peyton Manning, he's really going to hurt you," DeBerg said.

"He makes it look like a run for a real long time, and then sets up faster than anybody I've ever seen. He has a quick release and is accurate. In my opinion, Peyton's the best right now."

Greg Garber is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

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Re: Santana

Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:43 am

RedSoxTrue...I agree that Rosey is a MORON...but attacking him on an OBVIOUS typo (transposing two letters versus a misspelling) IS pretty LAME!

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The Red Sox blow lol They have white trash fans too haha
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Catchdog.....It appears that the Twins won't make this deal without FMart as part of the package.....Omar has to decide to go all in or not....the other hard part of this call is after expending of all this youth you then have to crack with 140 million dollar contract.....I want Santana as much as any Met fan but It's a very tough call.....In the end I think you have to give up the kid and get it done....Come on Omar don't get wet feet now.....Get Santana.....
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Rosenthal....

You are by far the stupidest writer on FOX; along with Kriegel.

RED SOX REPEAT IN '08 !!!!
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Rosenthal....You are the BIGGEST MORON !!

Nothing you write is "EVER" correct and your mind is a Living Nuclear Meltdown.... Go Back to Sleep and wake up when that PostSeason Check calls for you to announce the Playoffs and talk about things you don't understand.

By the way.... Coco Crisp last name is spelled C-R-I-S-P .. ..
A moron sportswriter who can;t even spell an easy name right !!!!
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Trades like 6 players for one are suppose to hurt... I being a diehard Mets fan understand this.. BUT!! What would hurt more? Giving up an 18 year old outfield prospect (still a few years away from the bigs) or having to face yet another end of the season collapse...

Omar, get this done... I beg of you!

We will find more outfielders....
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TrueBlue82 i'm guessing that the Angels aren't going after Inge because he doesn't hit as well as Figgins and is only slightly better defensively!

Inge had one descent power year but for the most part he's a .240 hitter with 10 home runs and 60 or 70 rbi's.
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I'm surprised the Angels don't go after Inge. He won't cost much in terms of prospects and is very versatile. Plus Moreno has always been great about paying what it takes to field a winner. They also have what it takes in terms of prospects to trade for Bedard (say Ervin Santana and Wood)
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I wonder why Yanks do not sign with Livan or Bartolo, or even Freddy (if he recovers well). other than trading away young studs for Santana. i know Santana is No.1 pitcher and Hernandez, Garcia, and Colon are not. but give them one-year contract and see how they pitch would be much smarter than tie up with a big long contract and loss of young stars.
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Humber, Mulvey, Guerra, Gomez, and Chavez or Heilman.

Do not include Fernando Martinez. He is Alou's replacement next season.

Then sign Livan Hernandez. This will give the Mets a rotation of :

Santana - Maine - Perez - Pedro - Livan Hernandez.

El Duque in the pen as the long man and Pelfrey starts in the Minors as backup.

NO LOHSE !

Get it done Omar.

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Re: Santana

Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:50 am

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11:26 AM Fri, Jan 11, 2008 Albert Breer

Let's just put it this way: Neither Terrell Owens nor the Cowboys exhibited much caution at all during the portion of practice open to the media.

The workout was outdoors, and held in sweats. As Barry posted a minute ago, Owens came out late for practice, just as we were coming on to the fields, with associate athletic trainer Britt Brown at his side. After getting some early work in during passing lines, Owens retreated to the sideline, took off his shoe, and had the tape job around his left ankle sliced off.

Owens then jogged around the stretching lines high-fiving all his teammates. And in early group work, the Cowboys were tossing fade routes up to Owens, requiring the receiver to go up for the ball. He worked with the first group most of the time, and kept close to Brown when on the sideline. Also, the limp he showed on Thursday was, for the most part, gone today.

Bottom line: It's pretty much like nothing's wrong with Owens.

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Re: Santana

Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:07 pm

The Prospect Corner - Fernando Martinez
January 11, 2008

http://completist.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/fernando-martinez/

Yesterday I spent some time looking at Carlos Gomez, so it only seems appropriate to follow that up by looking at Fernando Martinez who recently finished up a more than adequate year at AA ball as an 18 year old. The Mets are confident enough in their young outfield prospects that this off season they traded away Lastings Milledge, who was one of the most promising prospects they’ve had in years (I know there were a lot of issues surrounding his character, but in usual Mets fashion they bought high and sold low with Milledge). A lot of things have been said about Martinez, who has been dubbed F-Mart for short, and here are just a few of the quotes I found regarding this young slugger:

“Martinez looks like a young Ted Williams.” - Anonymous scout

“Fernandez has great posture for being so young.” - Rafael Bournigal, Mets’ director of international scouting

“What we saw in [Martinez] was a 16-year-old kid with power, great ability and great character, above everything else.” - Omar Minaya

“The 18-year-old has that special something that causes the ball to crack off his bat in an unparalleled tone.” - Adam Foster of projectprospect.com

Without having ever seen Martinez play in person, it’s hard for me to know if any of these quotes are completely accurate. To be called a “young Ted Williams” seems to be a bit of a stretch since I seriously doubt that there are any scouts still living that saw Williams play in the late 1930’s. However, all reports on F-Mart seem to be consistent with one another and it sounds like he’s a good kid with a nice power stroke type swing. Listed at about 6′ 2″ and 190 lbs, he has a good build for his age and if it weren’t for a BABIP of .200 at A+ in St. Lucie last year, F-Mart would have few doubters. He also recently had his season at AA ball cut short due to a hand injury that seemed to sap some of his power. Just from watching clips of him on YouTube, it looks like he has a nice quiet swing, but I think he often leaves too much weight on his back foot and as a result hits a lot of ground balls to the right side. If he learns to shift more of his weight forward I think his power numbers will improve.

Another important fact to point out is Martinez’s splits against lefties and righties. In 2006, he posted a .349/.482/.831 stat line against righties and a .289/.350/.639 line against lefties. That’s a fairly large disparity, especially when you consider that his BABIP against lefties was 80 points lower than his BABIP against righties and 9 of his 12 homeruns came against right handed pitchers. It’s not an unusual problem for a young hitter to face, and I think his stats versus LHPs will increase with time, but his advancement through the minors and his success in the majors will problem depend on how quickly that adjustment occurs.

As far as comparisons go, Martinez is a special case. Since he’s played through A and AA ball at such a young age, there are very few players that would provide accurate comparable stats to go by. F-Mart is the only player to have at least 100 at-bats in A+ ball that I could find, so that makes it very difficult to even begin a list of players to compare him to. Generally, we can expect a hitter that has played at AA by the age of 19 to reproduce those stats in the majors by the age of 22 or 23. As an example we’ll take a look at B.J. Upton, Jose Reyes, and Juan Gonzalez:

Of course these trends aren’t 100% guaranteed, but they give us a rudimentary baseline projection system that can give us an idea of what to expect from a young hitter. We also might want to consider that Martinez was injured in 2007, so his stats at AA ball weren’t as high as the possibly could have been. Taking that into consideration and applying his numbers to our trends to come up with a conservative projection for Martinez, we come up with something that looks like this:
There’s always a chance that Martinez will hit a growth spurt or make an adjustment that will increase his production, but he’s just as likely to flame out before he reaches the majors (see Andy Marte). If he stays on the projection course he’s on now, then I can see him posting a slugging percentage close to .500 and an on-base of about .350 with a few 30+ homeruns season during the prime of his career. I’ve heard that he’s fast and could steal a lot of bases, but his stats don’t support that rumor, so until he develops that skill set I think most of his value will come from what he does at the plate.

F-Mart has a lot of up-side, so these projection numbers are very preliminary, but I think he fits in with guys like Felix Pie, Hanley Ramirez and Cameron Maybin. That’s not a bad group to be in, but he’s definitely not the next Ted Williams and that will certainly come as a huge disappointment to a lot of Mets fans. In terms of card prices, as Martinez gets closer and closer to the majors, his prices will rise, but I think once he’s had 400-500 at-bats his prices will be significantly reduced. He might have a few good seasons early and that might translate into a rebound in prices, but for now there are much better investments out there. Wait to ick up some of his auto rookie cards after his first full year in the majors (the Mets are almost certain to bring him up before he’s ready) and then wait for his first big breakout performance and unload a few of them.

-Adam G.

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Re: Santana

Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:08 pm

Never too early for 2008 MLB draft talk


http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2008/1/11/133724/046

By FishHead
Posted on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 12:37:24 PM CDT

Considering this is a downtime for prospect talk, I figured we could get a little talk going about 2008 draft prospects. In my oppinion this is looking like a deep draft. Ive already come up with a mini-big board, all the info I have on guys is the stuff I read but here is my mini-big board:

1. 3B Pedro Alvarez
2. RHP Tim Melville HS
3. 1B Justin Smoak
4. SS Tim Beckham HS
5. LHP Brian Matusz
6. 1B Eric Hosmer HS
7. C Kyle Skipworth HS
8. RHP Tyson Ross
9. RHP Aaron Crow
10. RHP Alex Meyer HS
11. RHP Aaron Schafer
12. RHP Michale Pallazone HS
13. C Kyle Hightower HS
14. SS Harold Martinez HS
15. RHP BJ Hermsen HS
16. OF Isaac Galloway HS
17. RHP Garrit Cole HS
18. SS Brandon Crawford

Whats everyones oppinion and who are some guys im missing.

I found this article too on Eric Hosmer http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/2007/columnists/davidrawnsley/weeklycolumn/hosmer_special_hitter.aspx

The guy looks like a top prospect and if he didnt play first base he would possibly be the 2nd pick.

Ive heard Alvarez is one of the best hitting prospects to come out in the past 20 years.

And Ive also read that Matusz is only behind Santana in stuff right now!

What are everyones thoughts?

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Re: Santana

Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:09 pm

too early? no, too late

as an A's fan, i'm suddenly more interested in the 2009 draft. Smile who's available at the top?

by jpahk on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 12:46:24 PM CDT


Not sure if he'll make his

way to the top of the list, but Robert Stock is someone to keep an eye out for. After skipping his senior year of high school, he'll only be 19 when draft eligible. He held his own as a 17 year old at USC.

Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 12:54:50 PM CDT
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Wallace

Do not forget about Arizona State's Brett Wallace! He is the defending Pac-10 player of the year.

by gunkdog on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 01:00:26 PM CDT


Alonso?

No Yonder Alonso? He may go before Smoak.

by TheMike011 on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 01:08:04 PM CDT

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:20 pm

http://rotoworld.com/content/home_MLB.aspx

A source told FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal that the Brewers and Mike Cameron have come to terms on a one-year deal.
It's very surprising to see Cameron settle for a one-year deal with at least a couple of other clubs interested in him. The Brewers will likely move Bill Hall to third base to make room for him. The move puts them in much better position to challenge the Cubs in the NL Central.
Source: FOXSports.com

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:24 pm

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7663966
Free-agent center fielder Mike Cameron has reached preliminary agreement with the Brewers on a one-year contract with a club option for 2009, according to major-league sources.

The deal is pending a physical.

The Yankees had aggressively pursued Cameron, but their decision to pass on him indicates that they are still considering a trade for Twins left-hander Johan Santana. They were not willing to absorb the salaries of both Cameron and Santana, sources say.

The addition of Cameron likely will result in the Brewers moving Bill Hall to third base and Ryan Braun to left field.

Cameron, 35, will miss the first 25 games next season while serving a suspension for testing positive for a banned stimulant.

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MLB establishes drug investigation department

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3192208

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball launched a department of investigations Friday, a permanent branch of the commissioner's office responsible for looking into drug use in the sport.

In his report last month on drug use in baseball, George Mitchell had recommended the formation of the unit. Adopting another of Mitchell's recommendations, MLB is establishing a tip line for team employees to make the commissioner's office aware of violations of drug, betting and other rules.

MLB said the unit "will have broad authority to conduct investigations." The limits of the unit were not immediately clear. Will it place moles in clubhouses? Will it secretly tail players away from ballparks?

Dan Mullin, a former New York City Police Officer who had been in baseball's senior director of security operations, was appointed vice president and head of the unit. George Hanna, a former FBI employee currently in baseball's security department, was appointed senior director of investigations.

Mullin was not available for comment, baseball spokesman Rich Levin said.

"The department of investigations will have critically important responsibilities in protecting the integrity of our sport," commissioner Bud Selig said.

It was unclear whether the activities the unit could participate in would have to be negotiated with the players' association. Under labor law, terms and conditions of employment are subject to collective bargaining.

"We learned about this late last night. We had no role of any kind or sort in it," union head Donald Fehr said. "After we digest it, to the extent we have questions and things we want to raise, I'm sure we'll be doing that."

MLB will require all employees of the team and the commissioner's office to report any information on the possible use of performance-enhancing drugs to the head of the department of investigations. All team baseball operations employees will be required to sign an annual statement that they have no undisclosed knowledge of drug use, possession or distribution by players or other team employees.

This week, MLB adopted several other recommendations made by Mitchell, such as background checks and random drug tests for clubhouse employees; logging all packages sent to clubhouses; and permanent credentials for drug testers.

Selig has said some of the recommendations are subject to collective bargaining, such as moving responsibility for drug testing to an outside body. Lawyers for MLB and the union had a preliminary discussion this week.

Selig, Fehr and Mitchell are to testify Tuesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.






Following Mitchell's Lead

Highlights of commissioner Bud Selig's implementations based on George Mitchell's suggestions of policing drug use in the sport:

• Establishment of a department of investigations for the purpose of examining drug use
• Tip line for team employees to make Selig's office aware of violations of drug, betting and other rules
• Background checks and random drug tests for clubhouse employees
• Logging all packages sent to clubhouses
• Permanent credentials for drug testers

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:30 pm

MLB establishes drug investigation department

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3192208

MLB said the unit "will have broad authority to conduct investigations." The limits of the unit were not immediately clear. Will it place moles in clubhouses? Will it secretly tail players away from ballparks?

Dan Mullin, a former New York City Police Officer who had been in baseball's senior director of security operations, was appointed vice president and head of the unit. George Hanna, a former FBI employee currently in baseball's security department, was appointed senior director of investigations.

MLB will require all employees of the team and the commissioner's office to report any information on the possible use of performance-enhancing drugs to the head of the department of investigations. All team baseball operations employees will be required to sign an annual statement that they have no undisclosed knowledge of drug use, possession or distribution by players or other team employees.

Following Mitchell's Lead

Highlights of commissioner Bud Selig's implementations based on George Mitchell's suggestions of policing drug use in the sport:

• Establishment of a department of investigations for the purpose of examining drug use
• Tip line for team employees to make Selig's office aware of violations of drug, betting and other rules
• Background checks and random drug tests for clubhouse employees
• Logging all packages sent to clubhouses
• Permanent credentials for drug testers

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:33 pm

Brewers reported to have signed Cameron
By Tom Haudricourt
Friday, Jan 11 2008, 02:13 PM


http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/01/11/brewers-reported-to-have-signed-cameron.aspx#comments


ESPN.com is reporting that the Brewers have reached a deal with free-agent centerfielder Mike Cameron.

I will get right on this and try to get it confirmed by either the club or the agent. But it certainly rings true to me, because as you bloggers know, I've been reporting for two days that the Brewers have been after Cameron.

Signing Cameron to play center would mean the Brewers are moving Bill Hall to third base and Ryan Braun from third to left. Cameron has to sit out the first 25 games, however, after being suspended for testing positive for a banned stimulant.

Stay tuned for more details.
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According to Fox Sports its a One year Deal so I like it....
January 11, 2008 2:15 PM | ReportAbuse
Vernon County Eddie

I like the signing.

But I don't follow the logic that it means Hall has to go to third and Braund to left.

Why not leave Braun, and move Hall to left.

Braun will get better, and we've got an up and coming left fielder.

why not, Tom?
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Sweet:

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Smoove D

What doesn't make sense is how LaPorta fits into this. Will Braun move again when LaPorta (to where?) comes up? Do they expect Fielder to be gone by then, opening a spot for LaPorta at 1B? WIll they leave Braun at third, move Hall to LF, and move Hall back to CF when LaPorta comes up?
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Booooooooooo
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can cameron play right? is he better defensively than corey in center?
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Will Drew Anderson finally be outrighted?
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The issue with Braun at 3B is more than just errors - its that his range is atrocious. I saw a stat that he had the 2nd worst 3B range for a full time starter of all time. If a 3B can't get to the ball, thats way more hits allowed than a pitching staff like the Brewers need since they aren't exactly Johan Santana to begin with.
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SmooveD: It's just a 1 year deal, I think they'll get rid of Cameron when/if La Porta is ready for the big show.

I don't really like it, but it can't really be assessed until we see what moves this was the precursor too.
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ONE-YEAR deal, according to Foxsports.

Much improved defense, even more firepower with a bit more plate patience...this could be a very good signing.
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freeaking head scratcher
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Doug Melvin should be fired.
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"Here's the pitch -- curveball -- ooh, big swing and a miss! Strike three! That's his third strikeout of the afternoon, and the Brewers leave the bases loaded yet again."
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hmmm: Cameron is a stud defensive CFer, the problem is that he's a free swinging (160 SO) hitter and we need OBP. He's also bats R and we need a lefty.
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SouthSideRob

Another right-handed bat that has trouble making contact so basically we signed the right-handed version of Geoff Jenkins. God I hope this is just a small deal for a larger deal down the road. This is the only way this signing makes any sense...
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I hope DM knows what he is doing. I don't agree with this at all. I would rather have Geoff Jenkins than Cameron, at least Jenkins is a left-handed hitter and probably would be cheaper.

He is essentially Bill Hall (strikes out a lot) with a better outfield glove. Plus we won't see him until late April/early May.
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LaPorta is at best 2 years away - too long for the Brewers to worry about as far as personell moves go. This team has to win now, and thinking about LaPorta all the time isn't going to do that - I definetly don't want to put all outfield moves on hold because a young star MIGHT turn out to be a stud in 2 years - the Brewers have looked to winning in the future for a sickening amount of time. I think DM knows that he and Yost are on the chopping block if this season doesn't produce. I like the move in that it helps our defense in a number of areas.
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Dude! This is rad. He's like a poor man's Torii Hunter, and I mean that as a compliment.
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Perfect, I love this signing. We cannot go wrong with a one-year deal. My buddy, in San Diego, says Cameron can mash the ball, and is a great fielder. Our defense and team speed drastically increases with the signing. . .GOOD WORK DOUG MELVIN.

Albeit, I still do not like Bill Hall and Cameron in the same line-up.
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Heck yea! Now, Melvin can sit back and wait for the proposals to come for Capuano/Bush/Vargas without having to fill a need. Definitely stoked about this move. The Brewers should be able to make a final evaluation on Gwynn Jr. now when Cam sits out against righties and serves his 25-game suspension.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:35 pm

It's true: Brewers have signed Cameron
By Tom Haudricourt
Friday, Jan 11 2008, 02:22 PM


http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/default.aspx

I just got it confirmed that the Brewers indeed have signed free-agent centerfielder Mike Cameron. The deal is for one year plus a club option for 2009 but I haven't learned the financial numbers yet.

After serving a 25-game suspension at the start of the season for testing positive for a banned stimulant last year, Cameron will take over in center field for the Brewers. Bill Hall will move from center to third base, with Ryan Braun shifting from third to left.

Cameron, 35, has played for the Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati, Seattle, the New York Mets and San Diego in 13 seasons in the majors. He is a career .251 hitter with 216 home runs, 786 RBI and a .341 on-base percentage.

Last year in San Diego, Cameron batted .242 with 21 homers and 78 RBI in 151 games. He is a three-time Gold Glove winner.

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It's true: Brewers have signed Cameron
By Tom Haudricourt
Friday, Jan 11 2008, 02:22 PM

I just got it confirmed that the Brewers indeed have signed free-agent centerfielder Mike Cameron. The deal is for one year plus a club option for 2009 but I haven't learned the financial numbers yet.

After serving a 25-game suspension at the start of the season for testing positive for a banned stimulant last year, Cameron will take over in center field for the Brewers. Bill Hall will move from center to third base, with Ryan Braun shifting from third to left.

Cameron, 35, has played for the Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati, Seattle, the New York Mets and San Diego in 13 seasons in the majors. He is a career .251 hitter with 216 home runs, 786 RBI and a .341 on-base percentage.

Last year in San Diego, Cameron batted .242 with 21 homers and 78 RBI in 151 games. He is a three-time Gold Glove winner.
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This excites me about as much as a 3 week old melon
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Tom, This has to be a precursor to another move right?
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I think this is going to be a giant steaming pile. First of all we have to wait 25 games to even get our starting lineup. And even then I don't know if he's really going to make that much of a differance. Right now though I'd rather stick myself with fishing hooks than think of that.
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To the best of my knowledge, the only move this is a precursor to is moving Bill Hall to third base and Ryan Braun to left.
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Lidocaine

I dont like the idea of having Braun start out the year at 3B and then move him after 25 games. Thats just stupid. If he is gonna move, make it from the get go. Play Hart in CF for the first 25 games and them move him back to RF. Gross played well in RF last year he can take Harts place for the first month.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, this does significantly improve our defense but I believe we are also may be too heavily weighted with right-handed bats. This definitely speaks volumes about the lack of trust and belief in Gwynn and to a lesser extent Gabe Gross. Given Melvin's track record I trust he knows the internal possibilities were not going to help enough in 2008. For those that pine for Jenkins -- I disagree with you because of the defensive capabilities of Cameron. This also should help Hall relax offensively and hopefully Braun as well.
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Why don't they try to sign Jeffrey Hammonds again? Seriously, is Dean Taylor back in charge or what?
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Ugh...Any chance the Brewers can now package Hall/Capuano for Rolen?...This team is going to lead the league in strikeouts...
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travisjervey

I think it's a good move, actually. This greatly improves our defense, and don't forget that his somewhat mediocre numbers from last year were put up in Petco. His average will go up at least 15-20 points in Miller park, and this allows us to move Hall to 3B and Braun in left. Overall, our team defense should be up several notches with this move. I'd look for MC to hit .260 with 20 HR's, 20 SB's, and about a .340 OBP. And yes, bloggers...he IS better than Tony Gwynn, jr.
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Well, our defense just got a LOT better, assuming Braun is not a disaster in left. Gotta give Melvin credit for not being afraid to shake things up.
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No sir... I don't like it.
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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:37 pm

Sources: Brewers, outfielder Cameron strike deal

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3192184

The Milwaukee Brewers have reached an agreement with center fielder Mike Cameron, according to major league sources.

Cameron, 34, hit 21 homers and drove in 78 runs for the Padres last year. He will miss the first 25 games of the 2008 season, as he serves a suspension under the terms of baseball's drug-testing program.

Cameron will presumably play center field for the Brewers, who have reportedly spoken with Bill Hall, the team's center fielder last year, about moving to third base. If that happens, Ryan Braun would shift from third base to left field.

Buster Olney is a senior baseball writer for ESPN The Magazine.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:38 pm

Sources: Cameron, Brewers reach 1-year deal
by Ken Rosenthal


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7663966

Free-agent center fielder Mike Cameron has reached preliminary agreement with the Brewers on a one-year contract with a club option for 2009, according to major-league sources.


The deal is pending a physical.

The Yankees had aggressively pursued Cameron, but their decision to pass on him indicates that they are still considering a trade for Twins left-hander Johan Santana. They were not willing to absorb the salaries of both Cameron and Santana, sources say.

The Brewers had wanted a quick answer from Cameron, intending to pursue other free agents if he signed with another club. The Yankees were unwilling to abandon their pursuit of Santana in order to sign Cameron.

The addition of Cameron likely will result in the Brewers moving Bill Hall to third base and Ryan Braun to left field.

Cameron, 35, will miss the first 25 games next season while serving a suspension for testing positive for a banned stimulant.







Bad move, they might as well change their name now to the Milwaukee "Juicers" Oh well at least the Pack is in the playoffs. Go Packers!!!!
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that's not 100% true... Braun was a SS until a few years ago, and his errors were on simle throws that sailed away...and never cost the Brewers a game... he has been working on D obviously all offseason and will improve at 3b just like rickie weeks did last year.
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Because they need to get Braun out of the infield. His defense is awful. Glad to see the Cameron not on the Yankees. Hope this puts the Yankees out of the Santana race - we don't need that salary. Believe in Hughes!
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This is good news. The Yankees don't need another old player.
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why cant Cameron just play LF for the Crew? WTF??

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:39 pm

Brewers Sign Mike Cameron


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

According to Ken Rosenthal, the Brewers have signed center fielder Mike Cameron to a one-year deal with a club option for 2009. The amount is not yet known, but this seems like a solid move by Doug Melvin.

Rosenthal adds that one reason the Yankees may have passed is that they were unwilling to pay both Cameron and Johan Santana. (Really?)

Once Cameron finishes his 25 game stimulant suspension, he'll push Bill Hall to third and Ryan Braun to left field. So the Brewers gain defensively and get a career .251/.341/.445 hitter to play center (definitely above average for the position).




God damnit... At least he signed to a 1-year deal and it'll shore up the defense a little bit... No we have to trade Hall for a left-handed bat, because our current roster is all right-handed hitting guys and most of em are free swingers... we need a professional left-handed hitter...

Posted by: MrQuestions | January 11, 2008 at 02:22 PM

they should keep braun at third, left field will wear his body down like it did chipper when they moved him to make room for castilla

Posted by: coastal387 | January 11, 2008 at 02:26 PM

Giants could use Bill Hall. Although we have pitching to trade. Not a hitter.

P.S. Tim can we get rid of the dude with the gross nose hair??

Posted by: zito4cyyoung | January 11, 2008 at 02:26 PM

I agree, leave Braun at 3rd, pray for improvement (he's reportedly taking 1000 grounders a day), and put Bill in LF. When LaPorta comes we can move Bill back to CF if we want...

Posted by: MrQuestions | January 11, 2008 at 02:27 PM

Wow the Brewer's could have 5 guys K more than 120 times next season. But I don't see Cameron being that big of deal (as a free swinger) because he's basically replacing Jenkins who wiffed a good amount himself.

Posted by: Darin | January 11, 2008 at 02:30 PM

If Brewers leave Braun at 3b, then they could trade for Randy Winn. Both put up similiar numbers last year. Winn is a switch hitter that can play all OF positions.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:41 pm

Odds and Ends: Jocketty, Mantei, Kotsay, Santana

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/


Your usual dose of random rumors and links...

* The Reds brought Walt Jocketty aboard as a special advisor to President and CEO Bob Castellini today. For now, Wayne Krivsky's job appears safe. But jeez, with Walt in the house he has to be feeling a little pressure, doesn't he? In other news, the Reds talked with Brett Tomko's agent this week.
* The Tigers signed Matt Mantei for the league minimum. He can ask for his release if he's not in the bigs by May 1st. As Jon Paul Morosi notes Mantei hasn't pitched in the Majors for more than two years.
* RotoAuthority ranks the third basemen for fantasy baseball.
* Buster Olney says the A's talks with the Braves for Mark Kotsay "have a chance of becoming serious today."
* Gotham Baseball's Mark Healey has a source who believes the Mets will get Johan Santana "no matter what they have to do."
* The Rangers made the Eddie Guardado deal official, and also brought Jamey Wright back on a minor league contract.


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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:41 pm

Gotham Baseball Mark Healey says- Source: 'Mets are going to get Santana'

http://gothambaseballmagazine.com/forums/index.php?topic=583.0

Had a very intertesting talk today with one of my MLB guys...he says that the Mets are going to get Johan "no matter what they have to do"

This guy would know, so I'm starting to think it will happen.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:47 pm

Jan 11, 2008 2:38 pm - Buzz: Yankees Interested in Mike Cameron



http://www.metsblog.com/

...posted by Matthew Cerrone...

…this has me a bit worried…

The Yankees are showing ‘serious interest’ in free-agent OF Mike Cameron, writes Ken Rosenthal at FoxSports.com.

…it seems to me that if the Yankees acquire cameron, Melky Cabrera will be as good as traded…however, where will he be traded to…hopefully not to the Twins, along with Phil Hughes, in a deal for Johan Santana…instead, from what i can gather, melky could be used in a deal to get a set-up man, which could allow Joba Chamberlain to slip back in to the starting rotation…

…as i said yesterday, and this is total speculation, but i wonder if all the rumored talk between the Red Sox and Twins and the Yankees and Twins has more to do with Joe Nathan than santana…just a thought…

…Update…3:00 pm…

According to Buster Olney at ESPN.com, the Brewers are ‘on the verge of an agreement’ with Cameron.

…thanks to Jason B for the link, and thanks to buster for calming my initial fears…

…Update…3:20 pm…

According to Rosenthal’s recent report, Cameron and the Brewers have reached agreement on a one-year deal.

…well, that was quick…

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:48 pm

2008-01-11 14:45:04

i’ll tell you what, if the Mets win the world series this year i will walk around town in that hat for a week. i will even wear it cocked to the side.
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2008-01-11 14:48:36

The real question is how did Matt get it off the head of 50 Cent to feature it in this blog.
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2008-01-11 14:45:43

Cameron is going to the Brewers
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2008-01-11 14:50:03

comn omar….re-sign ollie and get us johann……i want the last year at shea (boohoo-i will miss that dump) to be one to remember….
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Comment by gottabelieve07
2008-01-11 14:50:27

Well even if they don’t trade for Santana, Cameron would probably help their OF quite a bit. And until they agree to trade Hughes, I don’t think anything will change in their stance in the Johan talks.

That said, I wouldn’t be shocked at all if at the end of this roller coaster Santana is pitching in the Bronx.
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Comment by Achilles400
2008-01-11 14:50:34

Melky can also go to Oakland in a deal for Street.
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Comment by icedrake523
2008-01-11 14:53:09

More likely Matsui will be traded. He was rumored to be traded to the Giants awhile ago. A Santana deal always hinged on Hughes, never Melky who is overrated to begin with.
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yikes, that hat is awful
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2008-01-11 15:09:42

As we saw yesterday, that cap has NOTHING on the Atlanta “bling” cap.

Nothing.
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Comment by BaysideBillyD
2008-01-11 15:10:54

Per MLBTR

Brewers Sign Mike Cameron
According to Ken Rosenthal, the Brewers have signed center fielder Mike Cameron to a one-year deal with a club option for 2009. The amount is not yet known, but this seems like a solid move by Doug Melvin.
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2008-01-11 15:25:16

Cerrone is an idiot. Censorship sucks.
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2008-01-11 15:31:08

then post something intelligent. Or go play your video games.
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2008-01-11 15:34:55

Why waste time composing intelligent, well thought out posts when Cerrone and his other goons are just going to delete them, especially if you say something critical- god forbid- about this site or the Mets being cheap, Matt being an apologist for them, etc. I reiterate: Censhorship sucks.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:49 pm

Gotham Baseball Mark Healey says- Source: 'Mets are going to get Santana'

http://gothambaseballmagazine.com/forums/index.php?topic=583.0

Had a very intertesting talk today with one of my MLB guys...he says that the Mets are going to get Johan "no matter what they have to do"

This guy would know, so I'm starting to think it will happen.



If no matter what they have to do means including Reyes in the deal, then he is probably right... Short of that, I don't see how Minny could sell the Mets offer to their fans.

And not to throw anybody under the bus here, but what exactly is the difference between THIS post with a link attached and mine?

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:51 pm

The part about the Santana thing is interesting...

I would have assumed the OPPOSITE would be true... To me, Cameron ONLY makes sense IF the Yankees are trading for Santana...

I don't think Damon in center is the best idea in the world... Cameron would have been much better... And if the Yanks are NOT dealing Cabrera for Santana, then I don't see the need for Cameron.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:54 pm

Joba Chamberlain to start the year in the Pen?
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If Hank only learned to SHUT UP then we might not be talking about this. What part of Cashman has control over operations doesn't he understand? I hated George...in a good way, but this guy is just ticking me off.....


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I feel Joba is better off in the pen this season. I just don't trust Farnsworth. Besides kennedy could be the 5th starter.

Wang

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Hughes

Mussina

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I feel Joba is better off in the pen this season. I just don't trust Farnsworth. Besides kennedy could be the 5th starter.

Wang

Pettitte

Hughes

Mussina

Kennedy


you think Kennedy is ready?
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I feel Joba is better off in the pen this season. I just don't trust Farnsworth. Besides kennedy could be the 5th starter.

Wang

Pettitte

Hughes

Mussina

Kennedy


you think Kennedy is ready?



We'll find out. In the few innings he pitched, he did pretty well.
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The Yanks are smart to keep Joba in the 'pen to start the '08 season. He's simply not ready to take on a starter's full season workload...here's what he's done in recent years:

'05: ~120 IP at Nebraska
'06: ~90 IP at Nebraska
'07: ~115 IP total between the minor & majors

If they were to throw him into the rotation right off the bat, he'd be potentially doubling the workload his arm has been accustomed to over the last few years. To rush him like that - a la Mark Prior - would be very short-sighted. Let him build up his endurance and ease him into the higher IP #'s...perhaps by mid-season or so they'll look at moving him into the rotation.

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Post  RedMagma on Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:55 pm

Exactly.

Why would the Twins file tampering charges now? They still have the Yankees as a potential trading partner for a pitcher they have to move.

What I, or other posters have said is that MLB can penalize the Yankees for their obvious tampering.

And the point is, Bud Selig is asleep again.

What a shocker.

Bud Selig would rather send Bob Watson after Terry Francona during an inning of a Yankees/Red Sox game to investigate what Francona is wearing.

Weird world....

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