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Re: Buzz: More Seeing Mets and Johan Santana

Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:01 am

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According to a person close to Santana, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak for him, the left-handed pitcher would prefer the trade be finalized before Opening Day, mostly to avoid the logistical nightmare of moving during the season.

Santana, who spoke with the News-Press in Fort Myers, Fla., yesterday, said his fate lies with Twins executives.

"I'm a Minnesota Twin," Santana said. "That's all I know. It's up to them. Whatever they have to do is going to happen. It has nothing to do with me at all. I said it from the beginning during the season last year, whatever will be the best for this team and this organization, I'll agree with that."
Source: http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?....xml&coll=1

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:02 am

Can this shit just stop, please?


My thoughts exactly. Twins/Red Sox/Yankees/Mets are all disgusted by how long this thing has dragged on. Twins season ticket buyers are left wondering what exactly they're buying. Red Sox are left wondering whether their team is going to be "the best team in the history of the friggin' universe." Yankees fans are left wondering whether their number one starter is going to remain a Chinese guy with an 85 mph fastball. And, Mets fans are left wishing the Chinese guy pitched for them. Aside from the fans, numerous general managers and agents have to be frustrated by the roadblock on trades and signings created by the Twins' indecision/lack of professionalism.

I used to have a fairly neutral view of the Twins. They are, after all, the Twinkies - a team with a hefty bag in place of a Green Monster. They're starting to piss me off though.

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:29 am

Take 2: Giants vs. Cowboys



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By Scouts Inc
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Saturday, January 12, 2008



Earlier this week, our scouts filed their advance scouting report on this week's matchup between the Giants and Cowboys. Now they're back with a second look.

Matchup to watch
Dallas LT Flozell Adams vs. New York RDE Osi Umenyiora
Adams is scheduled to become a free agent after this season and obviously has a lot to play for. He won't need that extra incentive to get geared up for this playoff game, but he had better bring his best effort against Umenyiora. With Michael Strahan against Marc Colombo on the other side, Dallas will look to help Colombo first. While Adams will also receive help from a tight end or running back at times, he will often battle Umenyiora one-on-one.

Adams remains one of the better left tackles in the league and did a nice job against Umenyiora in these teams' previous meetings this season, but we still give the edge here to the Giants' fierce pass rusher. Umenyiora offers a wide variety of pass rush moves and can beat his opponent with quickness and speed or pure power and explosiveness. He closes on his target very quickly and also plays the run well for such a good pass rushing end.

What happens if WR Terrell Owens can't play?
While Tony Romo is an excellent quarterback who is having a tremendous season, Owens is the most important player on this offense. He suffered a high-ankle sprain in Week 15 and has had time to rest, so we expect Owens to return for this playoff game. If he can't go, or is a shell of what he is capable of, Dallas could be in trouble.

Yes, the Cowboys have a deep stable of weapons and feature a strong running game, but Owens is the one player who keeps defensive coordinators up at night and his presence on the field makes everyone else's job much easier. In reality, he can do it all. He is a touchdown machine who looks to score every time he touches the football. He can go up and get the ball extremely well, has terrific size, amazing strength and is excellent after the catch. Romo will throw him quick hitches, crossing routes, fades, outs, deep posts and just about every other route on the passing tree.

The attention that Owens will demand should free TE Jason Witten to battle with the Giants' linebackers and safeties, who are rather ordinary in coverage. It will also free WR Patrick Crayton and possibly speedster WR Terry Glenn, if he plays (knee), to exploit single coverage. Regardless if Owens plays or not, Dallas will usually keep one or two eligible receivers in to pass block against the Giants' pass rush, so getting the most dangerous players into the routes is imperative against this defense. New York's secondary, which is prone to allowing big plays, is in for a very long day if Owens is 100 percent healthy.

When the chips are down, which quarterback should we expect to thrive?
Both Romo and Eli Manning are very cool customers. While Manning hasn't had nearly as good of a season as Romo, the Giants' signal caller has certainly stepped up his game in a big way of late. Manning's best games this year have come against Dallas, New England and Tampa Bay, which are three of the better teams in the NFL. He has been exceptional over the past 10 quarters and has shown much-improved poise, decision-making ability and accuracy. Granted, he needs help from the Giants' strong, power running game, but Manning has stepped up for the Giants when they needed him most. In two games against Dallas, Manning is 51 of 75 for 548 yards, with five touchdowns and three interceptions.

The last postseason memory we have of Romo is of a wet K ball going through his hands in Seattle, which ended the Cowboys' 2006 season. We don't believe that such gaffes will be a recurring theme in Romo's career and his game has come a very long way from that fateful day. Romo is a student of the game who has an uncanny knack to feel pressure. He has a great awareness of the field and of everyone's assignment. Romo realizes that he needs to get the ball out quickly and into the hands of his excellent weapons. He has the accuracy and touch to drop the ball into tight spaces and put his receivers in a spot to do something with it after the catch. Against the Giants this year, Romo is 35 of 52 for 592 yards with eight touchdowns and two interceptions.

However, Romo and Manning have their flaws. Romo can press at times and sometimes run hot and cold. Manning has a history of making poor decisions and throwing off his back foot. When things go wrong for Manning, they often go catastrophically wrong. Because the Cowboys are at home and are the NFC's top seed, there will be more pressure on Romo, but he gets the nod when the chips are down.

Can the Cowboys slow up New York's outstanding pass rush?
The Giants sacked opposing quarterbacks 53 times this year, but only two of those sacks came against Dallas. In Sunday's win over Tampa Bay, DE Michael Strahan recorded the Giants' only sack, but New York harassed Bucs QB Jeff Garcia unmercifully on nearly every throw. It isn't any secret that New York has a phenomenal group of pass rushers led by Strahan, Osi Umenyiora and Justin Tuck, who recorded 10 sacks in a backup role and would start for just about every other team in the NFL. Strahan is the leader, but they all are fierce.

Defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo is a very aggressive play caller who will overload blitz off the edge, bring heavy pressure up the middle, utilize zone fire principles and even call cornerback and safety blitzes. The Giants got sacks from 11 different players this season. Spagnuolo obviously has a tremendous pass rushing front four and may have to be a bit more conservative with his blitzing due to the Cowboys' tremendous quick-strike ability and supreme talent at their skill positions. But make no mistake -- he will still dial up pressure.

The Cowboys will counter by using TE Anthony Fasano more often. He will team with Witten to give Dallas' offensive tackles outside help. Witten is clearly the better pass catcher of the two, but both players are well-rounded football players and will be instrumental against the Giants. Due to his protection, athletic ability and especially his ability to feel pressure, Romo is a very difficult quarterback to sack and very dangerous when he breaks contain, but we expect the Giants to get to him more often than in their previous meetings.

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If you judge this game solely by the Scouts Inc. Advantage, it looks as though Dallas is the far superior team, but this is going to be a close game. While the Cowboys have already beaten the Giants twice this year, New York is playing very well right now led by Manning, who has taken his game up several notches and finished the season strong. New York has scored 97 points in its last three games.

While the Giants have only lost one game on the road this season, they are coming off a stretch of excruciating games, including their Wild Card victory in the heat of Tampa Bay. As stated above, Owens' injury situation could have a big impact on the final outcome of this game and it appears that he will be hobbled to some extent for this matchup, but we still expect the Cowboys to edge out the Giants at home in a very close contest.


Prediction: Cowboys 28, Giants 27

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Re: Buzz: More Seeing Mets and Johan Santana

Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:34 am

What happens if WR Terrell Owens can't play?


I'm worried about the Cowboys have a lot of weapons and feature a strong running game, but Owens is the one player who keeps defensive coordinators up at night and his presence on the field makes everyone else's job much easier. In reality, he can do it all. TO is a touchdown machine who looks to score every time he touches the football. He can go up and get the ball extremely well, has terrific size, amazing strength and is excellent after the catch. Romo will throw him quick hitches, crossing routes, fades, outs, deep posts and just about every other route on the passing tree.

The attention that Owens will demand should free TE Jason Witten to battle with the Giants' linebackers and safeties, who are rather ordinary in coverage. It will also free WR Patrick Crayton and possibly speedster WR Terry Glenn, if he plays (knee), to exploit single coverage. Regardless if Owens plays or not, Dallas will usually keep one or two eligible receivers in to pass block against the Giants' pass rush, so getting the most dangerous players into the routes is imperative against this defense. New York's secondary, which is prone to allowing big plays, is in for a very long day if Owens is 100 percent healthy.


I think The Cowboys will counter by using TE Anthony Fasano to slow down Giants pass rush more often. Fasano and Witten will give Dallas' offensive tackles outside help. Witten is clearly the better pass catcher of the two, but both players are well-rounded football players and will be instrumental against the Giants. Witten protection, athletic ability and especially his ability to feel pressure, Romo is a very difficult quarterback to sack and very dangerous when he breaks contain, but we expect the Giants to get to him more often than in their previous meetings.

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:41 am

I'm worried about the Cowboys have a lot of weapons and feature a strong running game, but Owens is the one player who keeps defensive coordinators up at night and his presence on the field makes everyone else's job much easier. In reality, he can do it all. TO is a touchdown machine who looks to score every time he touches the football. He can go up and get the ball extremely well, has terrific size, amazing strength and is excellent after the catch. Romo will throw him quick hitches, crossing routes, fades, outs, deep posts and just about every other route on the passing tree.

The attention that Owens will demand should free TE Jason Witten to battle with the Giants' linebackers and safeties, who are rather ordinary in coverage. It will also free WR Patrick Crayton and possibly speedster WR Terry Glenn, if he plays (knee), to exploit single coverage. Regardless if Owens plays or not, Dallas will usually keep one or two eligible receivers in to pass block against the Giants' pass rush, so getting the most dangerous players into the routes is imperative against this defense. New York's secondary, which is prone to allowing big plays, is in for a very long day if Owens is 100 percent healthy.


I think The Cowboys will counter by using TE Anthony Fasano to slow down Giants pass rush. Fasano and Witten will give Dallas' offensive tackles outside help. Witten is clearly the better pass catcher of the two, but both players are well-rounded football players and will be instrumental against the Giants. Witten protection, athletic ability and especially his ability to feel pressure, Romo is a very difficult quarterback to sack and very dangerous when he breaks contain, but we expect the Giants to get to him more often than in their previous meetings.

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:42 am

OUT OF THE BLUE


http://www.nypost.com/seven/01122008/sports/giants/out_of_the_blue_346807.htm?page=0


GIANTS NEED HELP FROM PARTS UNKNOWN
By PAUL SCHWARTZ
ZEROES TO HEROES: The Giants need their unheralded players to step up and make some big plays this week in Dallas, like Corey Webster (intercepting a pass intended for Joey Galloway in the end zone) did last week in Tampa.
ZEROES TO HEROES: The Giants need their unheralded players to step up and make some big plays this week in Dallas, like Corey Webster (intercepting a pass intended for Joey Galloway in the end zone) did last week in Tampa.

January 12, 2008 -- The stars must come out and shine if the Giants New York Giants are to upset the big, bad Cowboys in tomorrow's NFC divisional playoff game, but it may be one of the lesser lights who pounces on the ball or gets a fingertip on a pass or delivers a block that turns the tide and makes all the difference.

Just ask Tank Daniels.

“When the playoffs start, every time you're on the field, that could be the play to win a game or the play to lose a game," Daniels said. “Of course I want to be the guy to make that big play. I definitely want to experience that feeling again."

Again? That's right. It was Daniels - perhaps the most anonymous of the 45 players in uniform for the Giants - who last week caused the fumble on the second-half kickoff that created the turnover that helped steer the Giants to their 24-14 playoff victory in Tampa. While Eli Manning Eli Manning , Antonio Pierce Antonio Pierce , Plaxico Burress, Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora took the podium this week to expound on the challenge that awaits them, lurking back in a strangely uncluttered locker room were nondescript players aching to come up big on the Texas Stadium turf.

Maybe it will be cornerback Corey Webster, who, forced into emergency duty, resuscitated a sickly career with a bolt out of the blue in Buffalo in the playoff-clincher and his shockingly dominating work last week in Tampa, prelude to a playoff start against the Cowboys. What about Domenik Hixon, waived by the Broncos in October and dormant with the Giants until rocketing on a kickoff return to a touchdown to stun the Patriots? It could be rookie safety Michael Johnson on a big hit, or even a special teams highlight from cornerback Geoffrey Pope, who, believe it or not, makes his NFL debut in this game.

Or it could be Torrance Daniels from the small town of Clarendon, Ark., where most everyone's a Cowboys fan and everyone calls him Tank. He's a 26-year old linebacker and the first-ever NFL player out of Harding University, a Division II school in Arkansas. Daniels spent most of last season on the Eagles practice squad, where he was coached by Steve Spagnuolo, now the Giants defensive coordinator.

Daniels occupied a spot on the Giants practice squad and was signed to the roster before the Dec. 2 game in Chicago. His first significant play for the Giants turned out to be one that helped the Giants to a playoff triumph.

“I don't want to be a person just running down there and being nonchalant," said Daniels, who is on every special teams unit except for field goal attempts. “If my role is to do special teams here, I want to be the best special teams player here."

Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden called it “the play of the day." The Giants came out of halftime last Sunday with a 14-7 lead, and on the second half kickoff Daniels slammed into Micheal Spurlock, ripping the ball loose for a fumble that Webster scooped up before stepping out of bounds. The Giants went on to get a Lawrence Tynes field goal and they were on their way.

“What a momentum changer for the team," Daniels said. “To have a part in it is an awesome feeling."

It's a feeling Pope wants to feel as well. A rookie cornerback from Howard University, Pope back in the summer was cut by the Dolphins, spent the entire season on the Giants practice squad and last week was signed to the active roster, although he did not play in Tampa. With cornerbacks Sam Madison and Kevin Dockery sidelined with injuries, Pope gets the call for the very first time, working on special teams and backing up in the secondary.

“It's funny, Tank and I were joking about, ‘When you get up there you got to make a play, man, that looks good for the rest of us,'" Pope said. “I'm trying to make the same impact he did last week, make a big play."

It's what all the lesser lights dream about this time of year.

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:44 am

JACOBS SIDESTEPS CRAYTON’S BARBS


http://www.nypost.com/seven/01122008/sports/giants/jacobs_sidesteps_crayton_s_barbs_771908.htm


January 12, 2008 -- Cowboys receiver Patrick Crayton is hearing things. This week he accused the Giants New York Giants of trash-talking and insinuated it's because the Giants lack confidence.

“Either they're scared or they're trying to talk themselves into thinking they can do it," Crayton said.

He saved his best stuff for Giants running back Brandon Jacobs Brandon Jacobs .

“Jacobs just talks, period," Crayton said. “He was talking even before the first game of the season."

Yesterday, Jacobs would not be drawn in.

“We don't really say nothing about the opposing team ever in this locker room," Jacobs said. “People can come out and say what they want to say, but it's all about playing the game on Sunday."

Crayton's comments caused more bemusement than anything among the Giants.

“Some people like cannon fire," right tackle Kareem McKenzie Kareem McKenzie said with a shrug.

“That's part of the division rivalry," added linebacker Kawika Mitchell. “It's fun. You guys would know if we were talking better than anybody, so if you guys don't think we're talking then obviously it would have been picked up by now. I'm not really too concerned about what he's saying."

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Shaun O'Hara (knee) is probable and will return to the starting lineup at center, and Mitchell will return to the lineup as the starting weak side linebacker.

Two players who won't be able to play are a pair of cornerbacks, starter Sam Madison (abdominal muscle) and nickel back Kevin Dockery (hip flexor). Dockery, who last week suffered a new injury to his right leg, already has been ruled out and Madison is listed as doubtful, although he will not play. Corey Webster will start in place of Madison.

Rookie CB Geoffrey Pope will be activated for the first time, working on special teams and also providing depth in the secondary. McKenzie (ankle) and TE Kevin Boss (flu) are probable.

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:45 am

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T.O.-DO LIST: K.O. OWENS
GIANTS NEED TO SMACK ACHING RECEIVER HARD



http://www.nypost.com/seven/01122008/sports/giants/t_o__do_list__k_o__owens_225321.htm?page=0


By STEVE SERBY

January 12, 2008 -- THE Giants New York Giants will try to hit Public Enemy No. 81 and hit him again tomorrow, harass him, hound him, knock him and his high ankle sprain out of the game if they can, infuriate him if they can't.

Because more than any player in the NFL, Terrell Owens can wreck the game for the opposing team . . . and he can wreck the game for his own team.

You know it, the Cowboys know it, the Giants know it. “I don't know him as a teammate; I just know he gets frustrated," Antonio Pierce Antonio Pierce told The Post yesterday.

The Giants have witnessed T.O. flapping his arms in the end zone at the Linc as an Eagle; yukking it up with Tony Romo; seen him preen at midfield on the Cowboys star as a 49er; pull out that Sharpie from his sock.

They also have seen an attention-addicted egomaniac rage at his quarterback, be it Jeff Garcia or Donovan McNabb, or at one of his coaches, be it an assistant coach like Greg Knapp or a big kahuna like The Tuna, Bill Parcells, when Owens isn't getting the ball.

Perhaps as much as T.O.'s physical state - he practiced again yesterday and is ready to go - it is T.O.'s emotional state that could very well hold the key to the Giants' Super Bowl ambition.

It's been a veritable lovefest for him this season with Wade Phillips and with Romo. But if he can tweak Romo for playing poorly with Jessica Simpson at a game down the stretch, what might happen if Romo starts buckling under the pressure of winning his first playoff game and T.O. cannot make an impact on the kind of stage he craves?

“Anytime you get T.O. frustrated, he implodes," ESPN's Merril Hoge said yesterday. “He's got an emotional leak in that aspect of his brain. He doesn't know how to stop the bleeding, stop the leaking. If he is not a factor in this one, there's no question, if you're a betting man, I think you take a lot of money to Vegas on that one."

The Giants are expecting the medical marvel who recovered in record time from a broken leg for a nine-catch, 122-yard night in Super Bowl XXXIX against the Patriots.

T.O. should expect some angry Giants.

Taped between the lockers of safeties James Butler James Butler and Michael Johnson yesterday was this Patrick Crayton clipping:

Even though wide receiver Terrell Owens is limping slightly on a sprained right ankle, the Giants' defensive backs had better not nap, Crayton warned. He then tweaked the cornerback who was burned by Owens on a 25-yard fly pattern for a TD in November. “Even if T.O. was at least 85 or 90 percent, that's better than most receivers in this league," Crayton said. “He can still run by you. Just ask Sam Madison."

Ask Corey Webster, because Madison is hobbled.

“He's a big, physical receiver; he goes up and gets the ball at the highest point . . . he wants the ball all the time, so no mistake when he's out there, you could expect the ball's coming your way if you're guarding him," Webster said.

And no mistake, Webster will be looking to put strain on T.O.'s ankle. “You gotta be physical with him at the line of scrimmage," Hoge said. “That will wear on that ankle. I would challenge every cut he has to make. I'd beat the living bleep out of him."

Sounds like a plan, the Big Blue plan. “We're gonna be right out there trying to get our hands on him and pushing him around - that's what we do," Webster said.

If that fails, the Giants must hope for a heavy pass rush on Romo, or safety help for Webster, or whomever else.

“The teams that have had success have been able to challenge him at the line of scrimmage with help over top," Hoge said.

The Eagles, shadowing T.O. with CB Lito Sheppard and pressuring Romo, limited him to 3-21 receiving last month. T.O. has scored four TDs against the Giants this season. “They'll try to motion him, they'll try to get him free releases," Hoge said.

Hoge likes Webster's 6-0, 202-pound size and physicality. “He can turn and run a lot better than Madison," Hoge said.

Webster believes being a former receiver helps him. “I think I'm a ball-hungry guy," he said.

He can't wait.

“This is stuff you dream of," he said. “This is my whole life."

Hit the bull's-eye.

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:50 am

No more jabs from Brandon Jacobs

BY RALPH VACCHIANO
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Saturday, January 12th 2008, 4:00 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/01/12/2008-01-12_no_more_jabs_from_brandon_jacobs-1.html



Brandon Jacobs plans to let his play to do the talking against the Cowboys on Sunday.

Brandon Jacobs had nothing to say about Patrick Crayton Friday. But he plans on saying plenty Sunday.

The Giants' big, brash running back refused to take the bait from the Cowboys' mouthy receiver, who on Thursday accused him of being a trash-talking no-show the last time these two teams played. Jacobs said, "I don't even want to talk about no --- Patrick Crayton," before storming away from his locker.

When he returned, he was asked if he planned to do his talking during the Giants' divisional playoff game at Texas Stadium.

"And after the game," Jacobs replied.

"I'm not getting into a talking battle with that guy. We don't really say nothing about the opposing team ever in this locker room. People can come out and say what they want to say, but it's all about playing the game on Sunday."

Actually, Jacobs has a history of trash-talking with the Cowboys, and with Crayton in particular. Before the Giants' loss in Dallas on opening night, Jacobs promised the Giants were going to "whup their (butts)." Then, after the Giants lost to Dallas again in November, Crayton suggested the Cowboys were on a different level than the Giants.

Jacobs responded "It's unfair for him to say that because he (stinks)."

Perhaps that's why Crayton popped off on Thursday, criticizing the Giants for talking too much and saying that was a sign that "either they're scared or they're trying to talk themselves into thinking they can do it." He also hit Jacobs hard for a mystery quote before the second meeting in which the running back supposedly said, "I wish they were flying in today. I'd go wait at the airport for them."

Said Crayton: "Well, we showed up and you weren't there. And when we got to Giants Stadium, you still weren't there."

"Clever," Giants receiver Amani Toomer said yesterday. "Very clever."

Toomer, like most of the Giants yesterday, was actually shocked at Crayton's assertion that the Giants talk too much. They were all given T-shirts during the offseason that read, "Talk is cheap. Play the game." And Tom Coughlin turned that into a team motto that they have tried to live by.

"I don't think we've really said that much," Toomer said. "I don't know who or whatever they heard, but they can say what they want to say."

Added Coughlin: "I was basically surprised about some of (Crayton's) thoughts. But ours has been basically to do our playing on the field."

Besides, Toomer said, pregame talk can often backfire on the speaker by firing up the players he is trying to rip. And Crayton's harsh words definitely have been a hot topic in the Giants' locker room since moments after he uttered them on Thursday afternoon.

"Yeah, we heard it," Toomer said. "Of course it bothers us. He has his opinion. The great thing about it is that's why we play the games on Sunday. It definitely does make a difference. This game is a lot about emotion. Anything to get you going that little extra bit is really important. And that definitely does give you that extra fuel to go a little harder."

Asked if he thought Crayton's words might make Jacobs go a little harder tomorrow, Toomer smiled and said, "You'll have to ask him." But Jacobs, who rushed 23 times for 95 yards against the Cowboys in November (he was hurt after only six carries in the season opener), remained determined not to get drawn into any war of words.

"I don't know what they're trying to do," Jacobs said. "But I'm focused on the task at hand."

SHAUN'S ON: C Shaun O'Hara, who missed the Giants' playoff opener with a sprained knee, is expected to play tomorrow, Coughlin said. ... CB Sam Madison (stomach) is doubtful after not practicing all week. ... CB Kevin Dockery (hip) will not play. He has been walking around on crutches. ... TE Kevin Boss (flu) practiced and is expected to play

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:51 am

Giants' defense can beat Cowboys in Dallas with Eagles' scheme


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/01/12/2008-01-12_giants_defense_can_beat_cowboys_in_dalla.html


BY HANK GOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Saturday, January 12th 2008, 4:00 AM

It's too bad Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo was not made available to the media this week.

Maybe he was too busy watching the handiwork of his mentor, Jim Johnson, from when the Eagles shut down the Cowboys a month ago. It sure would have been interesting to ask him what he learned.

When the Birds and 'Boys met in Dallas Dec. 16, the high-powered Cowboys were held without a touchdown for the first time since 2004 in a 10-6 loss. With Jessica Simpson in her Texas Stadium box, the Eagles forced three interceptions by Tony Romo, sacked him four times and held Terrell Owens to two catches, none until the fourth quarter. Dallas was 1-for-13 on third down and was thrown off its game with a 45-15 pass-to-run ratio that helped Philly control the clock for 33:56.

That's one reason why so many people think the Giants can pull of an upset tomorrow. Spagnuolo is a Johnson disciple. He thinks the same way and tries to exploit the same weaknesses. Judging by the defensive players' enthusiasm for this week's game plan, he probably found a few things they can use to their advantage.

First of all, Johnson's game plan was substantially different from the one the Eagles used in their first meeting, when Dallas burned them for 434 yards and 38 points in Philly.

Two components were key. Johnson blitzed far less than he usually does but concentrated his pressure up the middle, where defensive tackles Mike Patterson and Brodrick Bunkley had a sack apiece. And he accounted for Owens by slapping Lito Sheppard on him the way Corey Webster followed Joey Galloway all over the field last week.

"You're always looking to see what you have to take away," Johnson said afterward. "When you go against superstars like the T.O.s and the (Randy) Mosses, you have to start there. Then you've got to say, 'How are we going to pressure? What are we going to do different? How are we going to drop and move our people around?'"

Johnson used a 50-50 split of man and zone coverage, according to the Eagles. When Owens lined up right, on Sheppard's normal side, he singled him up. When Owens switched, Sheppard still followed him and the Eagles played zone behind him. Either way, Sheppard refused to give Owens a free release, bumping him toward the inside to make it easier for the safeties. On one outside route, he jumped an intended pass for Owens and came up with the interception.

"You know, that is one route we have seen them do on occasion," Sheppard explained later. "I don't want to give it away, but every time the quarterback rolls out like that, we expect whoever is at that receiver to sit down.

"I was backed off on it, so I got the chance to see Romo roll out, and I pretty much sat on it and jumped it."

Can a banged-up Sam Madison stay with Owens? Can Webster realistically duplicate what he did against Galloway?

In any event, Romo, who bruised his thumb in the third quarter, was under siege. That's what the Giants hope they can do.

"When you get pressure on the quarterback, I don't care what quarterback it is in this league, it's tough to play the position," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "And I thought our D-line was getting off the football and making plays. It seemed like they were in the backfield all day."

Assume Spagnuolo was taking notes when he sat by the projector this week. Maybe there was even a phone call to his old boss.

"No, no, he wouldn't do that," Tom Coughlin said. "Our system ... certainly you might think it is (similar), but it is not the same as the Eagles'. We have our own system. You always have to do what is based on personnel."

But when asked if the Giants could learn from that game, Coughlin said, "Always."
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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:54 am

Crayton creates a stir


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/011208dnspogiantsdate.1f9852d.html



07:54 PM CST on Friday, January 11, 2008

By DAVID MOORE / The Dallas Morning News
dmoore@dallasnews.com

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ – Well, at least the Giants have something to talk about besides Jessica Simpson and the remarkable recuperative powers of a certain receiver.

Patrick Crayton is no Jessica Simpson. He's no Terrell Owens. But in opening his mouth, the Cowboys receiver has created a stir leading up to Sunday's game.
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Crayton's assertion that the New York players have some deep-seated psychological need to talk trash before every game with the Cowboys made the rounds in the Giants locker room Friday.

The responses ranged from amused to dismissive to ticked.

"Patrick Crayton?" right tackle Kareem McKenzie asked with a quizzical look on his face. "He plays on offense? Then I wouldn't have to worry about him.

"Some people like cannon fodder. Of course, I didn't have time to read the paper today. I'm preparing for a game."

For those who hadn't read the newspaper, reporters made it a point to read Crayton's comments to them.

"Clever," receiver Amani Toomer said. "Very clever."

Crayton maintains that defensive end Michael Strahan is a sly trash talker and gives him high marks for being funny. He said the comments of linebacker Antonio Pierce are more sneaky confidence than trash talk.

Then, when talking about how Owens at 85 to 90 percent can run by most of the cornerbacks in the league, Crayton suggested reporters ask New York's Sam Madison.

"I didn't believe it at first when I read it," cornerback R.W. McQuarters said. "We don't want to get into a talking game with them. But it was disrespectful.

"I don't know if he used those words as inspiration for their guys. For the most part, we don't do a whole lot of talking."

Crayton's strongest comments were reserved for Brandon Jacobs, the running back who promised the Giants would whup the Cowboys in the season opener. He said Jacobs talks more than anyone on the team.

"I'm not talking about it at all," Jacobs said. "I have nothing to say about that guy."

Does Jacobs intend to do his talking on the field Sunday?

"On Sunday and after the game," Jacobs said.

Briefly: Center Shaun O'Hara (knee) practiced for the second consecutive day and is now expected to play Sunday. Cornerback Sam Madison (stomach) worked on the side but didn't practice. Coach Tom Coughlin, however, refused to rule Madison out until Sunday.

New York has won four of its last six games, but quarterback Eli Manning warns about placing too much stock in momentum.

"I think momentum is a great thing and you try to use it to your advantage when you have it," he said. "But you can't just rely on it. You can't say well, we've got the momentum now. We're going to go in there and play well."

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Playoff win would be sweet for Dallas Cowboys' Ellis, Adams

01:59 AM CST on Saturday, January 12,

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/011208dnspotaylor.1ba5569.html


IRVING – They are kindred spirits linked by the greatest era of futility in the Cowboys' illustrious history.

How could anyone forget Dallas has not won a playoff game in 10 seasons?

Greg Ellis and Flozell Adams share a bond because they're the two longest-tenured members on the team, and they have competed head-to-head in thousands of practices.




Ellis and Adams, the Cowboys' first two selections in the 1998 draft, have played a combined 296 games. Yet, neither has ever won a playoff game.

Sadly, Sunday's NFC divisional game against the Giants is only their fifth postseason game.

No one on this roster – not even Leonard Davis, who spent his first six seasons in Arizona, the NFL's version of Siberia – has enjoyed each of the 13 wins and the NFC East title more than Ellis and Adams.

They remember the dark days.

Like becoming the only team in the last 50 years to lose a playoff game to the Arizona Cardinals. Like three straight 5-11 seasons to start the millennium.

Like 31-0 on Christmas night in Tennessee in 2000 and 36-3 against Philadelphia in 2001. They remember searching six seasons for a worthy successor to Troy Aikman and the frustration of playing for three head coaches in a five-year span.

"Considering how it was from 2000 to 2002 and all of the different guys and people that came through here," said Adams. "I've really tried to enjoy and embrace the moments that have happened this season."

So has Ellis.

"When I got drafted, the Cowboys hadn't made the playoffs the year before," Ellis said the other day, "but I remember telling people that they would be back – I just didn't know it would take so long."

Only now are Ellis and Adams getting a full understanding of what it means to play for the Cowboys.

Yes, Dallas won 10 games in 1998, but that was the product of going 8-0 against four awful NFC East opponents. And, yes, Dallas won 10 games again in 2003, but that was more the result of Bill Parcells' coaching genius.

What else can you call it when Quincy Carter is your starting quarterback and Troy Hambrick is your starting running back?

This is the first really good Cowboys team Ellis and Adams have ever played on, a team with 12 players selected to the Pro Bowl and five named to the All-Pro team.

But forgive the duo if they decline to pop the cork on the bubbly right now. Each wants to win a playoff game before labeling the season a success.

They understand few good opportunities to win a championship occur for most players. They know it takes a talented roster, a quality coaching staff and good fortune when it comes to lucky bounces and injuries.

Dallas has experienced all of that this season.

The roster will change about 25 percent in the offseason. The coaching staff will take a major hit when Miami finally names Tony Sparano its head coach and an assistant or two or three follows him to South Beach.

There is no guarantee the Cowboys will be positioned this well to win a Super Bowl again.

This is where Ellis and Adams come into play.

As each moves into the twilight of his career, Ellis and Adams are still playing good football.

Adams was named a Pro Bowl starter for the first time; Ellis is among the favorites to win Comeback Player of the Year after missing part of last season and the first three games of this season with a ruptured Achilles'.

And if each plays well, the Cowboys will beat New York.

The Giants rely on their pass rush, which totaled a league-leading 53 sacks, to harass opposing quarterbacks into mistakes. If Adams controls Osi Umenyiora, who had 13 sacks this season, but none against the Cowboys, it bodes well for Dallas winning.

The Giants will double-team DeMarcus Ware often because he's capable of single-handedly disrupting their entire attack. That means Ellis, averaging nearly a sack per game, will get some opportunities to beat one-on-one blocking and pressure Eli Manning.

We all know Manning starts throwing off his back foot when he gets hit a couple of times. The earlier Ellis can force him to do that, the better the Cowboys' chances of winning.

Then Ellis and Adams can finally revel in the joy of playoff euphoria

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Giants take stabs at Crayton's jabs

BY ARTHUR STAPLE | arthur.staple@newsday.com
January 12, 2008


http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/ny-spgiants125535511jan12,0,4124294.story

Patrick Crayton likes to talk. The Cowboys wide receiver isn't too big on listening, but that doesn't seem to bother him when the Giants are his subject.

Crayton followed Bucs cornerback Ronde Barber as the most quotable playoff opponent this week, and Crayton's jab at the Giants' defensive backs ended up taped to the wall between the lockers of safeties James Butler and Michael Johnson.

Crayton was asked Thursday about Terrell Owens and whether the hobbled Cowboys star will be a threat Sunday.


"Even if he were 85, 90 [percent], his 85, 90 is better than a lot of receivers in this league just because of his explosiveness," Crayton said. "He is always a threat to run by you. Ask Sam Madison."

Madison made only a brief appearance in the Giants' locker room Friday after missing practice again, so he's unlikely to get a chance to go nose-to-nose with Owens, who has scorched the Giants for four touchdown catches in two games this season. But the rest of the Giants' secondary heard Crayton, loud and clear.

"When I heard what he said, I didn't believe it at first," said R.W. McQuarters, who will be the nickel corner Sunday with Madison and Kevin Dockery (hip) out. "I thought maybe someone just wrote something up and printed it out. But guys talk. It's a little disrespectful to our guys, but he can say whatever he wants. We'll see what happens on Sunday."

Crayton wasn't finished Thursday. He turned to his favorite target, Giants running back Brandon Jacobs, with whom Crayton has had a running war of words since before the season opener at Texas Stadium. That's when Jacobs said the Giants were going to Texas to "whup their --." Jacobs went out with a sprained knee on his sixth carry, the Giants lost and it seems as if Crayton hasn't stopped badgering Jacobs since.

"It's funny that those guys talk every time we get ready to play them," Crayton said. "What I have learned is when players have to talk about another team like that, either they are scared or they are trying to talk themselves into believing they can do it. I think they are trying to talk themselves up into believing they can do it."

Crayton also called Jacobs "a talker," even though the only thing Jacobs has said that might draw some flak came after the Cowboys won, 31-20, at Giants Stadium on Nov. 11. Afterward, Crayton said Jacobs and other Giants had been talking all week; told of that message, Jacobs said, "It's unfair for him to say that. He --, first of all."

On Thursday, Crayton continued his harangue.

"He has been talking ever since [the opener]," Crayton said. "He even talked after the first game. I think it was like a Wednesday. He was like, 'I wish they were flying in today, I'd go wait at the airport for them.' Just little stuff like that. We showed up and you weren't there. And when we got to Giants Stadium, you still weren't there."

Jacobs has learned his lesson. He said Friday he didn't want to get into a "talking match" with Crayton and, to reinforce his point about not wanting to be quoted, grabbed a reporter's pen to make sure not a word was written.

Given that the two won't line up against one another, the war figures to be over until the postgame. By then, one of the two will have plenty of time to come up with witty rejoinders - while getting ready for the NFC Championship Game.


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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:13 am

Eli's reputation goes up and down like elevator


http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/ny-speli115533773jan11,0,4431226.story

Eli Manning and the "it" factor: a season in review.

Manning had "it" at the start of the season, when he took a verbal jab at Tiki Barber during training camp. Manning still had it through a six-game winning streak, lost it after a four-interception debacle against the Vikings and still couldn't find it in the wind, rain and snow of early December. He finally got it back with a strong game against the Patriots and cemented it with his first playoff win Sunday in Tampa.

So that's it, right?





Through three full seasons as a starter, Manning has had his temperature taken more times than a feverish infant. Now, with a game at Dallas on Sunday to see if he and the Giants can advance to the NFC Championship Game, Manning has to be full of energy, of that joie de vivre that infects his Cowboys counterpart, Tony Romo. It's a given.

How do you feel, Eli? Is your confidence sky high?

"Same as it always is," he said Wednesday, facing a few more reporters than usual but the same questions, to which he gives the same answers. "I feel good, I feel confident in what we're doing."

It's true that Manning has showed more fire the past two games, starting with the so-called meaningless Patriots game. On the second play, a play-action fake, Manning hit Plaxico Burress for 52 yards. The play looked identical to the second play of the Giants' season, when Manning and Burress connected for a 60-yard TD at Texas Stadium.

The four-TD game in the 38-35 loss to the Pats got Manning's juices flowing. He had to rein them in against the Bucs, an opportunistic defense that was determined to force Manning into mistakes. He made none, opting for short drops, pump-fakes and short throws to keep the Bucs on their heels.

For a smartly managed game, Manning has gotten lots of praise. Perhaps too much, considering he didn't try to do too much. "I think that is a compliment," he said. "A lot of it is just managing the game, figuring out what kind of game it has to be, finding ways to win. It doesn't always have to be the same way."

But Manning does always have to be the same way, for which his teammates give him credit.

"I've never seen him crack under the pressure," said Amani Toomer, who trotted by Manning on their way to the locker room after Sunday's game and yelled, "He can be had, though! He can be had!" That was in reference to Ronde Barber's quotes during the week.

"You're never going to see him give up," Toomer said. "With all the pressure that's been put on him since he could throw a football, he's handled it really well. I'm impressed with the way he handles everything."

Even success. He had time for a quick hug for his father, Archie, and older brother Cooper Sunday in Tampa, then it was back to work with his team, preparing for this week's challenge.

"I don't feel any different," he said of the first playoff win. "My confidence, my preparation, my work ethic don't change from one week to another, or now that I've won a playoff game. If you don't win this one, then they'll have something else to say, that you can't win the second one."

There will always be another question for Manning, another person wondering which way his arrow is pointed. He did allow himself one out-of-character moment Sunday, when a reporter asked whether Manning's optimism about winning a third meeting between the Giants and Cowboys constituted a guarantee.

"No more stupid questions, please," he said to a roar of laughter. If only it were that simple.

SHOOTOUT: ELI VS. THE COWBOYS

Using his head

Jan. 2, 2005 / Giants 28, Cowboys 24

It took until his seventh start and the final game of the season, but Eli Manning quarterbacked the Giants to his first win as a rookie QB. Manning showed how far he had progressed in the final seconds of the game. With the Giants trailing 24-21 and the ball on the Cowboys' 3-yard line, Manning saw Dallas was expecting him to throw, so he audibled to a Tiki Barber run from a spread formation. Barber's 3-yard TD gave the Giants the home win and ended their eight-game losing streak.

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Here's how to beat the Cowboys

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/ny-spglaub115533786jan11,0,5000389.column

The Giants haven't figured out how to beat the Cowboys this season, losing twice by a combined 76-55. So what makes them think they can come up with something that will work the third time around?

Well, this is why coaches spend hours in the film room and scribble down potential solutions. And that game- plan preparation could spell the difference in whether the Giants finally solve the Cowboys or their playoff run ends Sunday in Big D.

The Giants won't tip their hand, but we'll offer a five-point plan to show how they can stage a second consecutive playoff upset and make it to the NFC Championship Game




GET PLAXICO BURRESS INVOLVED EARLY AND OFTEN:

Burress has played the entire season with an ankle injury he suffered in a Week 1 loss to the Cowboys (45-35), but it was in that game that his value to the Giants was emphasized. He torched Dallas for 144 yards and three touchdowns. Dallas made sure to blanket him the next game, and he was held to four catches for 24 yards.

But the Giants have to get him involved more against this defense, particularly cornerback Jacques Reeves. The Giants should move Burress around to try and get single coverage with Reeves, and if that happens, then Eli Manning needs to get the ball to the 6-5 Burress, who has a major height advantage. Burress hinted the other day that he thought moving to different spots along the line of scrimmage would be a benefit, and we couldn't agree more. Split him out wide. Play him in the slot. Just mix it up here and there to throw a wrinkle the Cowboys haven't seen, and it'll work.

FIND ROY WILLIAMS AND THROW AT HIM: Williams, the Cowboys' Pro Bowl safety, is one of the hardest-hitting tacklers going. He also has a penchant for grabbing players from behind with the "horse collar" technique, for which he has been fined several times and was suspended for a game late in the season. But offensive coordinators know Williams for something else: being absolutely abysmal in pass coverage.

Williams is powerfully built but he is also slow. So anytime a Giants tight end or a receiver is in the vicinity, Eli Manning should pick up on it. Jeremy Shockey regularly abused Williams in coverage, but with Shockey out for the season with a leg injury, it will be up to rookie Kevin Boss to expose Williams. Boss has been solid since replacing Shockey, and could become an integral part of the passing game if he gets single coverage from Williams. The seam route is a favorite of Giants tight ends against Williams: right up the middle, about 20 yards downfield. If Manning can find Boss a couple times, it will do wonders in loosening up the defense.

GIVE AHMAD BRADSHAW THE BALL EARLIER:

The rookie running back has exceptional speed and quickness, and he could be just what the Giants need against the Cowboys. Brandon Jacobs still is the workhorse, but against the Cowboys, the Giants need a change-of-pace back. That's Bradshaw, who makes things happen just about every time he touches the ball.

Bradshaw can be particularly effective against the Cowboys because of his quickness and cutback ability. Where Jacobs is more of a straight-ahead runner, Bradshaw can change directions much faster and potentially can get to an open space more quickly.

The Cowboys' front seven might be the biggest and most physically imposing in the league, and it's no small feat to establish a running game against them. The Giants have used Bradshaw more toward the end of the season, usually when Jacobs is injured (Buffalo) or ineffective (Tampa). But now it's time to fold him in on a more regular basis, not simply when Jacobs' status is in question.

The Cowboys don't have a lot of game tape on Bradshaw, so he's somewhat under the radar. Which is a good thing, especially at this time of year.

BE PHYSICAL WITH TERRELL OWENS:

Although he's only three weeks away from suffering a high ankle sprain, it's almost inconceivable that Owens won't play.

But he can't be expected to be at full strength, and the Giants should negate his effectiveness even more by being as physical as possible with him close to the line of scrimmage. If they can disrupt his routes early, the Giants can take Owens out of his rhythm even more. Defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo might assign rookie cornerback Aaron Ross or Corey Webster - or even Sam Madison, if he's healthy enough to play - to cover Owens. Or Spagnuolo could use a combination of cornerbacks to cover him. One way or another, the Giants must stop Owens from being a factor, because he is capable of breaking open a game at any moment.

But the tricky part is not concentrating exclusively on Owens, because tight end Jason Witten, who was particularly effective in the first game, or wideouts Patrick Crayton and Terry Glenn also can do damage. The Giants did well in limiting Witten in the rematch at Giants Stadium, but it was Owens who wound up burning them. Negate both threats with reasonable consistency and the Giants have a chance.

PRESSURE TONY ROMO, BUT DO IT DIFFERENTLY:

The Giants' pass rush has been magnificent this season, with a league-high 53 sacks for 349 yards. There's no question the Giants will have to pressure Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo, who is as dangerous as they come when he has time in the pocket. But it's a matter of how the Giants apply that pressure that could make all the difference. The Giants often blitz a linebacker or occasionally a defensive back, but against the Cowboys, Spagnuolo should rely more on his speedy defensive backs to rush the passer. Again, not all the time, because the Dallas receivers are dangerous enough even with a full complement of corners and safeties. But the Cowboys' offensive line is so big and so effective in protecting Romo, who has been sacked just 25 times all season, that the Giants can't solely rely on pressure from the line. So Spagnuolo needs to be a little more creative and use players such as Corey Webster and Aaron Ross or safety Gibril Wilson to throw Romo off his game.

SHOOTOUT: ELI VS THE COWBOYS

'D' for QB, 'A' for 'D'

Dec. 4, 2005 / Giants 17, Cowboys 10

A dominant performance by the defense in a battle for first in the NFC East enabled the Giants to overcome a less than mediocre effort by Manning (27.9 QB rating). The second-year QB threw two interceptions, both by Aaron Glenn, and completed only 4 of 16 passes for 49 yards in the second half. Glenn's second INT set up Dallas' only touchdown. The Week 13 win at Giants Stadium moved the Giants a game ahead of second-place Dallas.

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Up for a good game?

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I am stepping out on the limb, but I don’t think I’m stepping out too far. Just back from CES and I’ll try and do a wrap up at some point, but I wanted to throw some kudos to the guys at Flying Labs.

I am arguably the last person on the planet to think Pirates and that whole genre are cool, but from my first 30 or so minutes of exposure to

http://www.burningsea.com/page/home I can’t say enough good things about it.

First off the folks at FL are incredibly passionate about the product and that comes through in the first 10 seconds of conversation, but the game is visually stunning, and my exposure to it had me installing it and getting ready to log in and play as soon as I got back.

I can’t vouch for the game play after the initial stuff I saw but I am going to bet it’s going to be a hell of a lot of fun. Partners, competitors, whatever, I love seeing cool passionate people make great games and I think this is going to be a great one.

I’m interested to hear what people that are playing think and those that check it out as well.

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Zach laughing at the bench
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Unbelieveable how Isiah has assemble a team that doesn't care but getting paid. I can't believe what I'm see. Zach and Eddy Curry talking and laughing like we are 26-9.

Fire Isiah!





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yep.. He brings in a bunch of misfits and now we see how inept Isiah is about putting a team together..
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I'll bet Isiah thinks he's a good coach when he makes runs with Curry and Randolph on the bench.

Meanwhile, most people who follow basketball said that they would never play well together and it was a lost cause.

Isiah is such an idiot it's sickening.
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Zach is not needed on this team... We cut Zach tommorow we are a better team..
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Isiah lost his team months ago. How is this new news? We're not winning any games anytime soon. Just be happy he hasn't traded our pick yet.
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Zach is not needed on this team... We cut Zach tommorow we are a better team..

No your the idiot ZBO is not the problem it is IT, Marbury, Richardson, Rose, Jefferies and the lack of playing time for Balkman, Chandler, Collins, Morris and Nate (earlier in the season he play Jones more minutes than Nate).

IT is loyal to Jefferies, Rose, Marbury, Richardson and Jones and they are all the reason why he is going to be fired. He should have gone wiht this lineup once Marbury quit on the team Nate, Crawford, Balkman, ZBO and Curry with Lee (being the first man of the bench getting at least 25-30 minutes a game), Chandler, Collins and Morris. I guarantee you if he played these kids instead of Marbury, Jefferies, Richardson, Jones and Rose this team would be in a run for the playoff this season.

But it to late now because IT has lost this team and he will be fired before the month is over. He should have went with the kids right off the bat and tell all the veterans that he will try to trade them if he can or that Knicks will buy them out, Next year Marbury and Rose will be gone and I hope Dolan buy out James, Jefferies and Richardson and the new coach give all the minutes to the kids.

Go Knicks!



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Zach is not needed on this team... We cut Zach tommorow we are a better team..

No your the idiot ZBO is not the problem it is IT, Marbury, Richardson, Rose, Jefferies and the lack of playing time for Balkman, Chandler, Collins, Morris and Nate (earlier in the season he play Jones more minutes than Nate).

IT is loyal to Jefferies, Rose, Marbury, Richardson and Jones and they are all the reason why he is going to be fired. He should have gone wiht this lineup once Marbury quit on the team Nate, Crawford, Balkman, ZBO and Curry with Lee (being the first man of the bench getting at least 25-30 minutes a game), Chandler, Collins and Morris. I guarantee you if he played these kids instead of Marbury, Jefferies, Richardson, Jones and Rose this team would be in a run for the playoff this season.

But it to late now because IT has lost this team and he will be fired before the month is over. He should have went with the kids right off the bat and tell all the veterans that he will try to trade them if he can or that Knicks will buy them out, Next year Marbury and Rose will be gone and I hope Dolan buy out James, Jefferies and Richardson and the new coach give all the minutes to the kids.

Go Knicks!




Rosports, you were the biggest Isiah nut-hugger on this board the last two years. I understand that you've changed your tune, (what choice do you have?), but you really shouldn't be calling anyone here an idiot.

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Zach is not needed on this team... We cut Zach tommorow we are a better team..

No your the idiot ZBO is not the problem it is IT, Marbury, Richardson, Rose, Jefferies and the lack of playing time for Balkman, Chandler, Collins, Morris and Nate (earlier in the season he play Jones more minutes than Nate).

IT is loyal to Jefferies, Rose, Marbury, Richardson and Jones and they are all the reason why he is going to be fired. He should have gone wiht this lineup once Marbury quit on the team Nate, Crawford, Balkman, ZBO and Curry with Lee (being the first man of the bench getting at least 25-30 minutes a game), Chandler, Collins and Morris. I guarantee you if he played these kids instead of Marbury, Jefferies, Richardson, Jones and Rose this team would be in a run for the playoff this season.

But it to late now because IT has lost this team and he will be fired before the month is over. He should have went with the kids right off the bat and tell all the veterans that he will try to trade them if he can or that Knicks will buy them out, Next year Marbury and Rose will be gone and I hope Dolan buy out James, Jefferies and Richardson and the new coach give all the minutes to the kids.

Go Knicks!






LOL

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We are aware that Isiah lost this team since he got the extension back in March. I want Isiah fire before this team loses hope for the future. Losing badly isn't a healthy thing for the young players in the long run. I hope Isiah gets fire ASAP. As a Knicks fan, I'm just waiting for Isiah to get the pink slip.



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Zach is not needed on this team... We cut Zach tommorow we are a better team..

No your the idiot ZBO is not the problem it is IT, Marbury, Richardson, Rose, Jefferies and the lack of playing time for Balkman, Chandler, Collins, Morris and Nate (earlier in the season he play Jones more minutes than Nate).

IT is loyal to Jefferies, Rose, Marbury, Richardson and Jones and they are all the reason why he is going to be fired. He should have gone wiht this lineup once Marbury quit on the team Nate, Crawford, Balkman, ZBO and Curry with Lee (being the first man of the bench getting at least 25-30 minutes a game), Chandler, Collins and Morris. I guarantee you if he played these kids instead of Marbury, Jefferies, Richardson, Jones and Rose this team would be in a run for the playoff this season.

But it to late now because IT has lost this team and he will be fired before the month is over. He should have went with the kids right off the bat and tell all the veterans that he will try to trade them if he can or that Knicks will buy them out, Next year Marbury and Rose will be gone and I hope Dolan buy out James, Jefferies and Richardson and the new coach give all the minutes to the kids.

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Rosports, you were the biggest Isiah nut-hugger on this board the last two years. I understand that you've changed your tune, (what choice do you have?), but you really shouldn't be calling anyone here an idiot.

No you are an idiot! Because the players IT has on this team are way better than what we had before and what there record is right now. But when IT drop the ball in the Marbury fiasco I knew this team was dead and to top it off he play Jones more than Nate and continue to play Marbury this was the death of this team and now it has work it way to ZBO and Curry. I am not stupid but I still believe in these kids not IT, Marbury, Jefferies, Jones, Richardson and James these players do not belong in a Knick uniform. IT should have went to Nate, Crawford, Balkman, ZBO and Curry right after the Marbury fiasco with Lee, Chandler, Collins and Morris. If he went with this lineup there is no doubt this team will be competing for a playoff spot right now. But since he inserted Marbury and give the kids he has lost the team.

By the way I think IT has done a great job in assembling a young team Curry, ZBO, Nate, Crawford, Balkman, Collins, Chandler and Lee will be the nucleus of this team next year along with a lotto pick hopefully Rose from Memphis. IT made a big mistake when he did not handle the Marbury fiasco and now he compound it by pulling player and limiting there minutes because they no longer respect him so he has to go and I hope he take Marbury, Jefferies, Jones, Rose, James and Richardson with him.

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Calm down Knicks fans. rosports is frustraded. Isiah fooled all of us. The Knicks pride is gone. This franchise was once a proud one. Isiah has made fun and has gotten richer out this Knicks franchise. This fool is going to laugh at us once he is fire but better days are coming once this fool is fired!





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Unbelieveable how Isiah has assemble a team that doesn't care but getting paid. I can't believe what I'm see. Zach and Eddy Curry talking and laughing like we are 26-9.

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that's why zeke didn't put those two laughing hyenas back on the court which shows that he don't take crap from players who think this is funny....and i would of done the same thing. i would have been more upset at isiah if he allow them back on the court which shows he is weak and let his players walk over him. any player who rather laugh on the bench can stay on the bench as far as i am concern. that don't excuse him for playing starbury tho after that other incident.

on the plus side, i am glad to see lee and da balkman getting more minutes in place of those hyenas.

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Unbelieveable how Isiah has assemble a team that doesn't care but getting paid. I can't believe what I'm see. Zach and Eddy Curry talking and laughing like we are 26-9.

Fire Isiah!





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that's why zeke didn't put those two laughing hyenas back on the court which shows that he don't take crap from players who think this is funny....and i would of done the same thing. i would have been more upset at isiah if he allow them back on the court which shows he is weak and let his players walk over him. any player who rather laugh on the bench can stay on the bench as far as i am concern.

on the plus side, i am glad to see lee and da balkman getting more minutes in place of those hyenas.

News flash he already lost this team along time ago when he let Marbury walk over him when the team voted to keep Marbury on the bench. IT is the one to blame here he had a chance to discipline Marbury big time but he chose not too. Now he lost the majority of the team.

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that's why zeke didn't put those two laughing hyenas back on the court which shows that he don't take crap from players who think this is funny....and i would of done the same thing. i would have been more upset at isiah if he allow them back on the court which shows he is weak and let his players walk over him. any player who rather laugh on the bench can stay on the bench as far as i am concern.

on the plus side, i am glad to see lee and da balkman getting more minutes in place of those hyenas.

News flash he already lost this team along time ago when he let Marbury walk over him when the team voted to keep Marbury on the bench. IT is the one to blame here he had a chance to discipline Marbury big time but he chose not too. Now he lost the majority of the team.

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i was being somewhat sarcastic bonehead. i think it might have to do with the dirt he has on isiah so whatever that dirt is, it must be damaging to his image lol oh the irony

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:28 am

Source: James Dolan leaning toward firing Isiah Thomas before season's end


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/01/12/2008-01-12_source_james_dolan_leaning_toward_firing.html

BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Saturday, January 12th 2008, 4:00 AM
James Dolan appears to be bored at Friday night's Knick loss to the Raptors ... Goldfield for News

James Dolan appears to be bored at Friday night's Knick loss to the Raptors ...
... and according to a source is growing tired of Isiah Thomas. Goldfield for News

... and according to a source is growing tired of Isiah Thomas.

After all the losing Isiah Thomas has done - both on and off the court - the Knicks' president and head coach appears to be finally losing the support of his strongest ally as well.

Garden chairman James Dolan recently told confidants that he knows a coaching change must be made and that he is preparing to do just that, according to a source close to Dolan. No timetable was given, but the source indicated that Dolan is leaning toward making a change before the end of the season.

Dolan's change of heart comes 10 months after he rewarded Thomas with a contract extension believed to be worth $24 million. Also, two months ago a Garden official leaked a story to three newspapers that Thomas still had the support of ownership.

However, that public show of support came days before the Garden reached an out-of-court settlement with former executive Anucha Browne Sanders, who had filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Thomas, Dolan and the Garden.

Also, the Knicks have performed miserably on the court, which is a reflection of Thomas, who as the team president is responsible for acquiring every player on the roster. With Dolan looking on from his baseline seat at the Garden Friday night, the last-place Knicks lost to the Toronto Raptors, 99-90, to drop their record to 9-26.

It is not clear whether Dolan would allow Thomas to continue in his role as the team's highest-ranking decision-maker once he is removed from the bench. Such a scenario would seem unlikely, but Thomas' survival skills should never be underestimated. He has outlasted three coaches since coming to New York, including a pair of Hall of Famers, Lenny Wilkens and Larry Brown. Neither Wilkens nor Brown coached more than 82 games, the equivalent of a full NBA regular season. Meanwhile, Thomas is 42-75 as Knicks coach.

It also is not known who will be hired to replace Thomas. In all likelihood, assistant coach Herb Williams will be hired on an interim basis and the team will begin a coaching search.

There is no shortage of candidates either for Thomas' front office job or his coaching job. Jerry West and Jerry Colangelo would be considered the top two candidates to become team president. Coincidentally, Colangelo's son, Bryan, who is the GM of the Toronto Raptors, spoke briefly to Garden president Steve Mills before Friday night's game.

The same source claims that "people are coming out of the woodwork to try and get Dolan's attention." The source said that group includes everyone from former Knicks - both recent and from decades ago - as well as current GMs.

"The same is true of guys who are trying to get the coaching job," the source said.

Dolan has been uncharacteristically mum on Thomas' future since announcing the extension last March. Thomas, however, has been outspoken in his belief that he is the right man for the job.

In many of his interviews with reporters, Thomas seems to be talking directly to Dolan. For example, Thomas said last week that the Knicks will win a championship with him running the team. He also has said repeatedly that he has no intention of resigning.

But last night, Thomas sounded like a coach who knows that his time is running short. Thomas compared himself to the construction worker who lays the foundation to a house for someone else to live in.

"When you move into your house, the guy who poured the concrete never really gets a chance to live in that beautiful house that he built," Thomas said. "Our job right now is to make sure that we lay the concrete and that we lay it correctly."

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Post  RedMagma on Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:29 am

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For all of you young hoop lovers who dream of going big-time but currently have small-time game, look to Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum for inspiration. Granted, Bynum has always been extremely tall and extremely gifted (soft hands, hops), but he hasn't always been extremely successful.

Bynum was never the best player on his high school team, playing second-fiddle to someone named Sean Baptiste, who ended up at -- drum roll please!-- Fairleigh Dickinson.

Word has it, Bynum wasn't even first-team all-Middlesex County (N.J.) Conference as a senior. And legend has it that UConn coach Jim Calhoun, who would've gotten Bynum if Phil Jackson hadn't, had to pull some thick, cable-like strings to get Bynum in the McDonald's All-America game.

Today?

Tim Legler and I were talking Tuesday night and we agreed that if we were starting a new franchise and could take any center in the world, Bynum would be second on our list behind only Dwight Howard.

Now that's improvement.

As Baron Davis told me after Bynum put 17 and 16 on the Warriors last month, "That boy's gonna be a beast.''

For the past several years, we've all lamented the demise of the center. Shaq has told us he's the Last Don, the last true big man to walk the earth (or the hardwood).

But we've been wrong.

The center position is back, or better yet, on its way back.

Three years from now, there will be no fewer than five top-flight centers in the Association. Here's the order I'd take them in the aforementioned scenario:

1) Howard
2) Bynum
3) Greg Oden
4) Amare Stoudemire
5) Yao Ming

And who knows, maybe Al Jefferson will begin winning one day. And Tyson Chandler keeps improving by the month, so he could be elite by then.

Then there'll be the solid second tier of Andrew Bogut, Chris Kaman and Emeka Okafor. I'm not sure where Al Horford will fit in yet, but he'll be solid, at worst.

That's not to mention any youngsters who are in college or high school right now.

Back in the '80s, how many top-flight centers were there?

1) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2) Moses Malone
3) Robert Parish

After those three, you start talking about a banged-up Bill Walton and then guys like Dan Issel, Artis Gilmore and Jack Sikma.

What about the '90s?

1) Hakeem Olajuwon
2) Patrick Ewing
3) Shaquille O'Neal
4) David Robinson
5) Alonzo Mourning (a notch below those four)

After that, you're looking at Dikembe Mutombo, Rik Smits and Vlade Divac. Too bad a back injury ruined Brad Daugherty's career or he'd be in that top five, ahead of Zo.

My point is that the center spot is about to be as strong as ever. In the modern era, there have never been more than a handful of great centers playing at any one time.

Soon, we'll have our handful. And in Bynum, opponents will have more than a handful. Much more.


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